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akuma587 on 16 August 2008

Good luck...The West has seemed to move further and further from the Japanese.



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c03n3nj0 on 16 August 2008

They have to market it well for it to sell.



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outlawauron on 17 August 2008
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Haha! That's funny. Capcom would have to entirely re-invent the series to do that. The game is very unfriendly to most western gamers (think MGS 1, 2, and 3).

Although, the Wii could be their portal for that change.

But... Metal Gear Solid 1 2 and 3 sold well in the west...

I don't see how it's unfriendly to western gamers either.

It's bascially an single player MMO but fun from what i can tell. (Kinda like FF12, but better gameplay wise)

Assuming they let you connect online with your friends... i could see a lot of MMO freaks loving it...(and the $10+ they save on a monthly subscription)

It's all a matter of getting people to give it a shot though... and that takes good advertising... and likely expensive advertising.

The targeting system will be the first thing that would need to change to help it be more control friendly. It's hard enough on PS2/P, and unless they could a Zelda-ish targeting it will still be a nightmare on the Wii.

While MGS did sell well, many stayed away because they couldn't play it at the time. I know I did. I couldn't play it when I was younger because it was just too complicated for me.

Lastly, the online system would have to be flawless and be immensly better than Brawls online system. There can't be any lag, 4+ players, and the ease to find your friends and get into a game. (that's why the PSP games are so popular. It's so easy to play with your friends)

(Personal note: I wish they also make the single player guild quests doable. Also, include some kind of story, anything)

 



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Riachu on 17 August 2008
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Haha! That's funny. Capcom would have to entirely re-invent the series to do that. The game is very unfriendly to most western gamers (think MGS 1, 2, and 3).

Although, the Wii could be their portal for that change.

But... Metal Gear Solid 1 2 and 3 sold well in the west...

I don't see how it's unfriendly to western gamers either.

It's bascially an single player MMO but fun from what i can tell. (Kinda like FF12, but better gameplay wise)

Assuming they let you connect online with your friends... i could see a lot of MMO freaks loving it...(and the $10+ they save on a monthly subscription)

It's all a matter of getting people to give it a shot though... and that takes good advertising... and likely expensive advertising.

The targeting system will be the first thing that would need to change to help it be more control friendly. It's hard enough on PS2/P, and unless they could a Zelda-ish targeting it will still be a nightmare on the Wii.

While MGS did sell well, many stayed away because they couldn't play it at the time. I know I did. I couldn't play it when I was younger because it was just too complicated for me.

Lastly, the online system would have to be flawless and be immensly better than Brawls online system. There can't be any lag, 4+ players, and the ease to find your friends and get into a game. (that's why the PSP games are so popular. It's so easy to play with your friends)

(Personal note: I wish they also make the single player guild quests doable. Also, include some kind of story, anything)

 

 

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theprof00 on 17 August 2008
trestres said:
@theprof00: Jealousy is killing you right?

 

i could leave you in pieces right now or just let you go.

if i chose to argue with you, maybe 5 people would see it, but you would look like an idiot to them, i don't think you are worth that exertion now that the thread is dead.

EDIT: in my original thread i meant to say hardcore on hardcore platforms, not core on core



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trestres on 17 August 2008
theprof00 said:
trestres said:
@theprof00: Jealousy is killing you right?

 

i could leave you in pieces right now or just let you go.

if i chose to argue with you, maybe 5 people would see it, but you would look like an idiot to them, i don't think you are worth that exertion now that the thread is dead.

EDIT: in my original thread i meant to say hardcore on hardcore platforms, not core on core

 

Oh is that so? Give it a try tough man, more action and less words please.

Btw you meant post not thread right? You started with your left foot buddy.



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11ht11 on 17 August 2008

so when is this going to be released?



theprof00 on 17 August 2008
trestres said:
theprof00 said:
trestres said:
@theprof00: Jealousy is killing you right?

 

i could leave you in pieces right now or just let you go.

if i chose to argue with you, maybe 5 people would see it, but you would look like an idiot to them, i don't think you are worth that exertion now that the thread is dead.

EDIT: in my original thread i meant to say hardcore on hardcore platforms, not core on core

 

Oh is that so? Give it a try tough man, more action and less words please.

Btw you meant post not thread right? You started with your left foot buddy.

lol i'm pretty drunk, so forgive the "thread" thing, lol, that's pretty funny.

maybe i'll just start with a list because it will be easier... hic...

1. you are a Nintendork, and upset that i said nintendo wasn't "core". which already is wrong (and makes no sense*) because i meant to say hardcore, which i edited later with a large "EDIT" marking. SO you weren't responding to my mis-speak, but to the fact that nintendo isn't "core" (hardcore). Which, already, is like a kid getting upset because i said his mom didn't have muscles. this fearless defense of the wii, on such a strange accusation already proves that you are a fanboy nublet, and i will back it up with these facts:

a) you are proud of 1,000th post on a brawl thread.

b) your avatar is of the master sword

c) your faves indicate you grew up with the snes, given your liking of several snes "cult status" games.

2. you disagree with me about the wii being "core" enough for MH.(terminology already discussed).... Trust me, the people that play the Wii, and the people that play games like MH are different people. Here are these facts:

a) anybody with half a right mind that also owns a Wii. Mainstream-ly speaking, people that play the Wii for less than an hour a day > the people who play games like zelda, galaxy > people who play japanese style games like pokemon battle rev > the people who play classic games with the appeal of sonic, in sonic riders. >the people who play people who play games like MH, a game that warrants a purchase if

i) you already know what it is

ii) you like japanese style games, and have a willingness to explore new games (given americas manga market does not seem to be a strong trend)

iii) you like games with a background, to the order of something like sonic, whom people remember from childhood.

iv) you have a friend that introduces you to hardcore games

b) you can see already that 2a) =/= casual gamer due to the fact that the closest thing to a hardcore game in the top selling wii games is zelda:TP. and at 4.76 m sold, you are going up against a legendary title vs. a relatively unknown game.

3. nobody is jealous of monster hunter coming out on the wii. Sure it would be a nice addition, but not worth sending even a giftbag to their company. it is a good game, for sure, but it isn't anywhere near the "best" game, or even the "best selling" or "console selling" games. I myself was addicted to my friends psp version, but even then, there are pc games, movies, friends, school, oendan, i mean c'mon....

this was fun and i could say a lot more, but my buzz is coming down, and now i don't even know why i wasted my time on you, that was too easy. i'm gunna go have some more beers and be happy that i "proved some kid on the internet wrong"......... i'm so lame......

but you're so wrong lol

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trestres on 17 August 2008
theprof00 said:
trestres said:
theprof00 said:
trestres said:
@theprof00: Jealousy is killing you right?

 

i could leave you in pieces right now or just let you go.

if i chose to argue with you, maybe 5 people would see it, but you would look like an idiot to them, i don't think you are worth that exertion now that the thread is dead.

EDIT: in my original thread i meant to say hardcore on hardcore platforms, not core on core

 

Oh is that so? Give it a try tough man, more action and less words please.

Btw you meant post not thread right? You started with your left foot buddy.

lol i'm pretty drunk, so forgive the "thread" thing, lol, that's pretty funny.

maybe i'll just start with a list because it will be easier... hic...

1. you are a Nintendork, and upset that i said nintendo wasn't "core". which already is wrong (and makes no sense*) because i meant to say hardcore, which i edited later with a large "EDIT" marking. SO you weren't responding to my mis-speak, but to the fact that nintendo isn't "core" (hardcore). Which, already, is like a kid getting upset because i said his mom didn't have muscles. this fearless defense of the wii, on such a strange accusation already proves that  you are a fanboy nublet, and i will back it up with these facts:

I'm actually upset about a grown up man like you talking shit and backing it up with anecdotal evidence.

Nintendork and fanboy nublet aren't words I would expect from a rational and mature person when trying to make a point.

Besides what's your point here? 

a) you are proud of 1,000th post on a brawl thread.

Incorrect, it's the 10,000th post, and what's wrong about getting something unique in a forum? How does relate to me being a Nintendo nerd like you claim?

b) your avatar is of the master sword

Again, it's just a picture I chose randomly after a google search and I've had more avatars before. Stupid point.

c) your faves indicate you grew up with the snes, given your liking of several snes "cult status" games.

Not at all, there's SNES, N64, GC and PC games among my favorite games. That doesnt mean I didnt enjoy my PS1 games. Everyone has it's favourite games, and surprise mines are not all Nintendo games. You're just talking crap here.

2. you disagree with me about the wii being "core" enough for MH.(terminology already discussed).... Trust me, the people that play the Wii, and the people that play games like MH are different people. Here are these facts:

Retarded anecdotal biased evidence shall not be taken as proof in a serious debate.

a) anybody with half a right mind that also owns a Wii. Mainstream-ly speaking, people that play the Wii for less than an hour a day < the people who play games like zelda, galaxy > people who play japanese style games like pokemon battle rev > the people who play classic games with the appeal of sonic, in sonic riders. >the people who play people who play games like MH, a game that warrants a purchase if

Where do you take this statistics from? Just made up guesses taken out of your rear.  

          i) you already know what it is

         I just know about the basic concept

      ii) you like japanese style games, and have a willingness to explore new games (given americas manga market does not seem to be a strong trend)

I don't buy games because of the manga or whatever, I just buy games that seem enjoyable to me. I can play a western RPG or an Eastern RPG without any problem.

            iii) you like games with a background, to the order of something like sonic, whom people remember from childhood.

Point here?           

iv) you have a friend that introduces you to hardcore games

Not my case, I introduced myself to it.

b) you can see already that 2a) =/= casual gamer due to the fact that the closest thing to a hardcore game in the top selling wii games is zelda:TP. and at 4.76 m sold, you are going up against a legendary title vs. a relatively unknown game.

Unknown game in the Americas, and equally unknown to any American. Wii owners are not the exception. This further supports your biased views.

3. nobody is jealous of monster hunter coming out on the wii. Sure it would be a nice addition, but not worth sending even a giftbag to their company. it is a good game, for sure, but it isn't anywhere near the "best" game, or even the "best selling" or "console selling" games. I myself was addicted to my friends psp version, but even then, there are pc games, movies, friends, school, oendan, i mean c'mon....

How do you know how this game is? No one knows how MH3 will actually be... Will it be a step in another direction for the series? Will it be more Western oriented like Capcom themselves claimed? You be it will.

Btw MHP2g is actually the best selling game so far this year in Japan, so talk about ignoring the facts.

this was fun and i could say a lot more, but my buzz is coming down, and now i don't even know why i wasted my time on you, that was too easy. i'm gunna go have some more beers and be happy that i "proved some kid on the internet wrong"......... i'm so lame......

You ran out of badly formatted arguments so soon? I expected better from a tough guy.You sounded like the Data Design of arguing, exceptinally lame.

You know what go drink a couple more beers so you can forget you got self-owned here.

but you're so wrong lol

No I'm not.

 

 

 



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CAL4M1TY on 17 August 2008

^I don't usually agree with trestres on anything (personally I think he's a raving Ninty Fanboy), but the "lol I'm pretty drunk" was incredibly lame and results in a thumbs down from me.

Anyway on topic, Monster Hunter WILL NEVER be as popular in the West as it is in Japan. Monster Hunter is a hit over there because it caters to that market (button mashing, really cool attacks with very little input by user, creative monster designs etc) where as western markets prefer different things.

It's the same reason why Dynasty Warriors and anything Gundam is loved over there and loathed here, it's designed for that market and it sells there. Same as why Halo sells well in the West but not in japan, it's just not their type of game.