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Retrasado said:
reask said:
Reasonable said:
The internet would be a nicer place and FPS games would still be on PCs...

And an even more overpriced ps3 with even less games on it.

C'mon reasonable you cannot be serious.

Any reasonable person knows competition is good.

 

he didn't say there would be no competition. He just said the internet would be a nicer place and most FPS games would be on PC. I don't know about the second part, but the first part is defintely true

 

oops must be in wrong thread.

I thought this was, in a world without x box.

hence my reason for response.

A:the internet would be a nicer place.

360 online service.

I heard the psn neighbourhood is much nicer.

B :most fps games would be on pc.

360 only does fps.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

After all what right minded ps3 owner would take a swipe at the 360. 

 



 

 

 

 

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twesterm said:
astrosmash said:

MS got into the console business to keep Sony from leveraging its console dominance to disrupt MS' OS business.

 

So wrong it's not even funny.

 

 I simplified because it wasn't really that important to my question. But I think that when Sony was saying they were going to give PS email and browser functionality, and was saying that they intended for people to buy PS instead of pcs, that consitutes an attack on MS' OS business. If things had gone as Sony had been hoping, there would have been a few hundred million more PS in the world, and that many fewer PCs.



Since a few other people have spoken up, I'd thought I give my take now.

 

First of all I think that last gen would have played out the same way, the people who bought Xboxs would have bought GCN and PS2 in proportions that wouldn't have significantly altered the market. Probably 80 to 90% would have bought PS2, 10% bought GCN and a small number either wouldn't have bought a system or bought multiple systems in the real world and would have stuck with those other sytems in this ficticious world.

 

The biggest difference to last gen would have been when it ended. Without MS in the game, Sony wouldn't have launch for at least another year, more likely 18 months. Nintendo, who hates to be the first to launch likely would have waited as well, perhaps being able to include 1:1 wiimotes at launch.

 

This gen then would likely have only just started, perhaps having started as early as late 2007, but likely not having both consoles available till mid-2008. While Nintendo would likely be getting the same numbers it has, perception would be totally different as instead of being the run away horse out of three, PS3 would likely be no worse than trailing by 60% to 40%. The extra year would mean the PS3 would have launched at a more reasonable price, perhaps as low as it is now.

 

The fact that Sony would be the only HD console, would be doing well, and would only be against Nintendo (the company that hates gen changes), would mean this would likely become the longest and hardest fought gen ever; either company might have won it in the end.

 

But there would be one wildcard, a scenario that is unlikely in the real world, but would be very possible in the xbox-less world. With only two companys fighting over a rapidly expanding market, it would be far more likely in this scenario for a new company to enter the console business. I suppose who and how would determine whether that would just put things back where they started, or on to a completely new tangent.



less console fighting...



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disolitude said:
Xen said:
It would look far better, I still think they should gtfo... if not the first XBox the Gamecube would sell better (and it deserves those sales, unlike the box), and if it did, we could see a truly different console from Nintendo. Anyway, I would prefer Microsoft not to get in.

Oh please. Gamecube was crap. If nintendo released the xbox it would have sold way more than gamecube. Had microsoft released the gamecube it would have sold nothing.  the only reason gamecube was competitive is because it had Nintendo name on it and nintendo games to sell the console, and it still came in dead last.

Its the only console last gen without DVD player, hard drive and without any sort of online apart form 2-3 games.

First of all, an HDD is good, but wasn't a necessity in the last gen (proof: PS2). Second, consoles are for games, and both the GC and the PS2 do it better (compare lineups). XBox having online play - nice. It's also nice that every game you gan get on it you can get on the PC, making the console a side purchase.

The Gamecube sold because it had loyal fans+good titles that you can't get anywhere else, not because of the "Nintendo" on it.

I still see watching movies on my console as nice, but entirely uneeded. Consoles are for games.

 



Sony would have only marginally better graphics then the Wii, and some of the best IPs ever made would have never existed.



GOTY Contestants this year: Dead Space 2, Dark Souls, Tales of Graces f. Everything else can suck it.

MS's involvment is far better for the consumer , terrible for the competition though.




Ninty would still have rare.

That's all I care about.