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Kasz216 on 15 August 2008

Uh dude. Dragons Quest Swords was way more successful then expected... and it's outsold every "rpg" on the PS3.

It was a bland Spinoff of a Spinoff on rails hack N slash RPG.



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Words Of Wisdom on 15 August 2008

It's odd but the PS3 is looking to be the "King" of sRPGs.



twesterm on 15 August 2008
shio said:
forevercloud3000 said:

 
twesterm said:
forevercloud3000 said:
twesterm said:
Why did you put MMO's on that list? Things like FFXI and Age of Conan are completely different beasts.

 

I pretty much put in anything with an RPG tag line in it. Action RPGs, Strategy RPGs, Stealth RPGs, JRPGs, MMORPGs, etc.

They all hold the name so they deserve to be listed.

Although I was a bit split on putting in games that already existed in last gen that are just ports (FFXI, Phantasy Star Universe). It seems a bit unfair to have those kind of games in there.

 

I think it's alright to make it fairly broad and say things like Oblivion and FFXIII can be on the same list but MMO's just appeal to a completely different crowd.  If I was looking to buy a console based on its RPG's I wouldn't give two craps about DC Universe Online.

As for counting things like Phantasy Star and FFXI (assuming we want to count that :P) I think it's alright since it appears on that system.  They're older games but the 360 is the older system.

MMORPGs are rightfully from the RPG genre. It's interesting how you approve Oblivion is an RPG, after that game being coined as a single-player MMORPG by some, due to several designs that are similar to MMORPGs.

 

 

What things define RPG's? 

If we go by the literal definition where it's the player takes on the role of a character, then we might as well just go by how many games are on those systems.

If we say it has to do with the deep complicated story and the character development then again, we might as well go by how many games are on the system.

If we say leveling up, what about games that keep track and improve stats?  GTA: San Andreas I believe has stats that apparently level up as you progress so is it an RPG?

So how do we define the RPG?  It's one of those things I think is really hard and you just have to draw the line at some games.  All MMO's are not RPG's and I wouldn't even consider any recent MMORPG as an RPG.  If WoW was a single player game would you consider it an RPG?  Why?

 



 

forevercloud3000 on 15 August 2008
Kasz216 said:

Uh dude. Dragons Quest Swords was way more successful then expected... and it's outsold every "rpg" on the PS3.

It was a bland Spinoff of a Spinoff on rails hack N slash RPG.

 

Wow are u blind? Dragon Quest did NOT do that well AT ALL! look at the darn chart! And the RPG genre is strongest for JRPGs which THE PS# HAS NONE OF SO FAR! The only RPG's period that are on the sytem right now are ports from the 360 so OF COURSE they have not sold that much...



      

      

      

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segajon on 15 August 2008

i would say 360 in america/europe but ps3 in japan

ps3 still has ffxiii exclusive in japan and eternal sonata is on the way

bty i saw cry on was mentioned for 360 but what about mistwalker's other 360 rpg blue dragon 2?



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Mistershine on 15 August 2008
forevercloud3000 said:
Kasz216 said:

Uh dude. Dragons Quest Swords was way more successful then expected... and it's outsold every "rpg" on the PS3.

It was a bland Spinoff of a Spinoff on rails hack N slash RPG.

 

Wow are u blind? Dragon Quest did NOT do that well AT ALL! look at the darn chart! And the RPG genre is strongest for JRPGs which THE PS# HAS NONE OF SO FAR! The only RPG's period that are on the sytem right now are ports from the 360 so OF COURSE they have not sold that much...

 

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Gearbox on 15 August 2008

God of War my friend God of War..



ZenfoldorVGI on 15 August 2008

Your PS3 list is hugely buffed for bulk, imo. For instance, your "tales of" PS3 title is unconfirmed, and then next two flagship titles are on DS(Tales of Hearts) and Wii(yet untitled 09). :(

Considering release dates, and dlc, or really not considering them at all, I think until some new RPGs are announced for the PS3, the 360 is the clear winner in this contest.

I love me some Disgaea no doubt, but The Agency or Angel Love Online? A ton of those PS3 games are filler, or MMOs. :(



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Riachu on 15 August 2008
twesterm said:
shio said:
forevercloud3000 said:

 
twesterm said:
forevercloud3000 said:
twesterm said:
Why did you put MMO's on that list? Things like FFXI and Age of Conan are completely different beasts.

 

I pretty much put in anything with an RPG tag line in it. Action RPGs, Strategy RPGs, Stealth RPGs, JRPGs, MMORPGs, etc.

They all hold the name so they deserve to be listed.

Although I was a bit split on putting in games that already existed in last gen that are just ports (FFXI, Phantasy Star Universe). It seems a bit unfair to have those kind of games in there.

 

I think it's alright to make it fairly broad and say things like Oblivion and FFXIII can be on the same list but MMO's just appeal to a completely different crowd. If I was looking to buy a console based on its RPG's I wouldn't give two craps about DC Universe Online.

As for counting things like Phantasy Star and FFXI (assuming we want to count that :P) I think it's alright since it appears on that system. They're older games but the 360 is the older system.

MMORPGs are rightfully from the RPG genre. It's interesting how you approve Oblivion is an RPG, after that game being coined as a single-player MMORPG by some, due to several designs that are similar to MMORPGs.

 

 

What things define RPG's?

If we go by the literal definition where it's the player takes on the role of a character, then we might as well just go by how many games are on those systems.

If we say it has to do with the deep complicated story and the character development then again, we might as well go by how many games are on the system.

If we say leveling up, what about games that keep track and improve stats? GTA: San Andreas I believe has stats that apparently level up as you progress so is it an RPG?

So how do we define the RPG? It's one of those things I think is really hard and you just have to draw the line at some games. All MMO's are not RPG's and I wouldn't even consider any recent MMORPG as an RPG. If WoW was a single player game would you consider it an RPG? Why?

 

That's why we let developers decide whether a game is an RPG or not

 



 

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Pristine20 on 15 August 2008

PS2/ps1 still pwn them all. Graphics are not gamebreakers with respect to RPGs. They're more useful in games like FPS, etc. Hell, does ToV look much better than ToA?



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