Killzone 2 Is NOT Generic

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IllegalPaladin on 15 August 2008

blazinhead89 said:
Generic? that word is thrown around too much these days

I suppose, too bad that many of the responses here are too generic....

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IllegalPaladin said:

colonelstubbs said:

Squilliam said:
Resistance is the generic one.

Sacrelige!

Yea really, why isn't Haze cited instead? It even has a Willhelm scream...

I think the point is this - a lot of people think good game = innovative. So the game that people say is innovative is probably just the game they like the best. But moving on - Killzone 2 has shown us an innovative cover system, an incremental innovation really. However this is something that is likely to be implemented by other games looking to improve their own cover systems. Its not huge but its one example of innovation in this game.

Tease.

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libellule said:
Shooters are GENERIC.

(you can close the thread)

The best post in the thread...yet no one took notice :(

Yes...pretty much EVERY shooter is generic. But that doesn't mean they can excel at parts. KZ2 excels at graphics but gameplay is unknown. Games like...Metroid (on the Wii I'm talking about) have good gameplay and decent graphics for the Wii.

Meh...a lot of games these days are generic.

That's exactly what I"m getting at, most games are generic, that doesn't mean they can't be fun or good games in general. Disgaea 3 is going to be largely generic SRPG fare and not hugely different from the first two, but I"m still looking forward to it and can't wait to play it.

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Dolla Dolla said:
I just gotta ask .....

DMJ, how the hell is Resistance 2 a Gears clone?!? That doesn't even make sense. Don't feed the trolls, you were responding to a trollish comment with more trolling, and a horrible observation at that. Resistance and Gears feel different, play different, and have totally different features.

OT: Killzone 2 has a lot to overcome. It's gorgeous, it's animation is unparalleled, and it had tremendous potential, but I'm still cautious that they've done it right. I look forward to trying this puppy out.

I know it's not a clone. ;)

But a few 360 owners have said so. :P

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Squilliam on 15 August 2008

DMeisterJ said:

Dolla Dolla said:
I just gotta ask .....

DMJ, how the hell is Resistance 2 a Gears clone?!? That doesn't even make sense. Don't feed the trolls, you were responding to a trollish comment with more trolling, and a horrible observation at that. Resistance and Gears feel different, play different, and have totally different features.

OT: Killzone 2 has a lot to overcome. It's gorgeous, it's animation is unparalleled, and it had tremendous potential, but I'm still cautious that they've done it right. I look forward to trying this puppy out.

I know it's not a clone. ;)

But a few 360 owners have said so. :P

Its more like a Half Life/WWII shooter clone mix, but Insomniac are awesome anyway.

Tease.

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dbot said:

Millennium said:

Storyline: a space marine fights aliens. Verdict: GENERIC

Graphics: Same old bloom-ridden gray. Verdict: GENERIC

Features: Hiding behind objects is considered a great and innovative feature. Verdict: GENERIC

More Features: The destructibility gimmick. Verdict: GENERIC

Weapons: A melee weapon, a shotgun, a gun that shoots rapidly, an explodey weapon that bounces, an explodey weapon that flies, a highly-accurate weapon with very fast bullets but a low fire rate, and a BFG. Verdict: GENERIC

Sounds like you are describing Gears of War and Gears of War 2. Why doesn't that franchise get labeled as generic. It does nothing special.

Oh, I'd label those as generic too; believe me. They're just not in the scope of this discussion.

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IllegalPaladin on 15 August 2008

Millennium said:

dbot said:

Millennium said:

Storyline: a space marine fights aliens. Verdict: GENERIC

Graphics: Same old bloom-ridden gray. Verdict: GENERIC

Features: Hiding behind objects is considered a great and innovative feature. Verdict: GENERIC

More Features: The destructibility gimmick. Verdict: GENERIC

Weapons: A melee weapon, a shotgun, a gun that shoots rapidly, an explodey weapon that bounces, an explodey weapon that flies, a highly-accurate weapon with very fast bullets but a low fire rate, and a BFG. Verdict: GENERIC

Sounds like you are describing Gears of War and Gears of War 2. Why doesn't that franchise get labeled as generic. It does nothing special.

Oh, I'd label those as generic too; believe me. They're just not in the scope of this discussion.

Yea, big muscled guys in suits of armor? Totally generic!

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Loud_Hot_White_Box on 15 August 2008

twesterm said:
I read the rant and I still think Killzone 2 is going to be generic in terms of gameplay. I do admit the art style is pretty good (amazing compared to other games in the genre) and the animations are great but that doesn't make a good game.

When the vast majority of the hype of a game is about its graphics this is just the view I'm going to keep until proven wrong. Yes, I've seen positive impressions of the gameplay but I'm still just skeptical.

I just think KZ2 will do many things we've seen before very well or better than we've seen them done up until this point. If the game just represents an impressive move forward in graphics, enemy hit animations, AI, destructability, and use of cover, with tight gameplay and fun multiplayer, will make the game HUGE, and it'll make the game more than CoD4 could ever claim to be.