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Forums - Sales - The Official July NPD Thread (data for 4 weeks ending 8/2 comes @ 6:30 est)

Kenology on 14 August 2008
DMeisterJ said:
5-2 for PS3 this year vs. 360 in NPD sales.

According to NPD PS3 has gained ~300k units on 360 in america in the first seven months of this year.

How long would it take the PS3 to catch the 360 at that rate?

 



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nordlead on 14 August 2008
leo-j said:
nordlead said:
leo-j said:
superchunk said:
meh, I don't care about over/under as compared to npd. They are only estimating as much as vgc is. You guys would be jumping all for vgc if the numbers were showing PS3 leading here and losing on NPD.

What I do care about is that ps3+360 < Wii. :)

Wii on to 50%!

 

 NPD estimates?

Were did you get this from? NPD gets retail reports they dont estimate anything

 

I see the ignorance is strong with you. NPD doesn't count every system out the door. They don't have any data from Walmart or ToysRus, so they have to estimate something.

Walmart is out right the biggest electronics seller, and ToysRus does extremely well on the Nintendo front.

I'm not claiming NPD sucks, but at least I know that they can make mistakes.

Im not being ignorant..

Also assuming they estimate wont get you anywhere, there is a reason why console makers use NPD and not other sources.

 

I don't have to assume, just look into how NPD actually works. They make estimates on all sorts of household electronics, and various other consumer goods, just like all the other tracking firms around the world do. Just look at famitsu/media create for examples of how trackers estimate. Both services track video game sales, yet they differ all the time. This week is a prime example of the differences just in software alone.

 




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talkingparrot on 14 August 2008
Jackson50 said:
HyperionFF said:
Vgchartz should just come out and admit the mistake. There was no week with 360 outselling the PS3 in the US during July, go figure on a worldwide basis LOL

 

 It could do that, or the NPD Group could do the same. It is as likely that the NPD Group is as incorrect as you say VGChartz is. Personally, I am more inclined to believe VGChartz's numbers. 

 

I can't believe the damage control.  People are questioning the NPD?!



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Jlmadyson on 14 August 2008
Jackson50 said:
HyperionFF said:
Vgchartz should just come out and admit the mistake. There was no week with 360 outselling the PS3 in the US during July, go figure on a worldwide basis LOL

 

 It could do that, or the NPD Group could do the same. It is as likely that the NPD Group is as incorrect as you say VGChartz is. Personally, I am more inclined to believe VGChartz's numbers. 

 

 It is probably mix of the two being off a bit, but I seriously believe NPD is off this month. August should give a bit more bearing as we head into Sept.



DMeisterJ on 14 August 2008
Kenology said:
DMeisterJ said:
5-2 for PS3 this year vs. 360 in NPD sales.

According to NPD PS3 has gained ~300k units on 360 in america in the first seven months of this year.

How long would it take the PS3 to catch the 360 at that rate?

At the same rate, without price drops, compelling software, increased value and brand name, oh, a couple of years.

But since all of those things apply to the real world, who knows.  Depends.



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jman8 on 14 August 2008

Since the 360 launched, I always wondered whether MS would be able to expand their market beyond the original Xbox's. This entire year has seemed to show that the system is struggling at best to reach a greater fanbase.



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talkingparrot on 14 August 2008
Kenology said:
DMeisterJ said:
5-2 for PS3 this year vs. 360 in NPD sales.

According to NPD PS3 has gained ~300k units on 360 in america in the first seven months of this year.

How long would it take the PS3 to catch the 360 at that rate?

 

 

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konnichiwa on 14 August 2008
talkingparrot said:
This makes me laugh so hard. That means the numbers posted on the main page are totally off.

 

Totally off?  Nah...  but it was better that VGC numbers were like 20% off then saying X360>PS3 while in fact PS3>X360 that damges VGC a lot more.






Gobias on 14 August 2008
Jackson50 said:
HyperionFF said:
Vgchartz should just come out and admit the mistake. There was no week with 360 outselling the PS3 in the US during July, go figure on a worldwide basis LOL

 

 It could do that, or the NPD Group could do the same. It is as likely that the NPD Group is as incorrect as you say VGChartz is. Personally, I am more inclined to believe VGChartz's numbers. 

 

Actually since NPD covers more data, its statistically more probable that NPD is correct.



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Hyruken on 14 August 2008
HyperionFF said:
Vgchartz should just come out and admit the mistake. There was no week with 360 outselling the PS3 in the US during July, go figure on a worldwide basis LOL

 

 To be fair it is an easy mistake to make though and everyone makes mistakes it is part of being human. The thing which ruffles my feathers is that before these figures people were questioning if the allegations ioi was making about various things were true or not. Rather then talk about it he just did a "im right and if you disagree your banned" approach. As far as i'm concerned i love this website and appreciate the work the people put in to it but that doesn't mean your immune to being asked questions etc.. If everyone acted like that in the real world could you imagine it?