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cwbys21 said:
Viper1 said:
mowe said:
Too bad it's all CRAP games. I hope Wii fanboys don't use this as proof that the Wii actually has some good games that sell.

 

Oh look, he's playing Wii Bingo.

Yes because it is so untrue that there are never any shovelware on the highest selling consoles.

Nice sarcasm.  Too bad it's misplaced.  Might try reading his post too.



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mowe said:
superchunk said:
@mowe, you have a NES avatar yet Wii has "crap" games....


Anywho, yeah, by January the 3rd party market shift will be massively in Nintendo's favor.

 

What does me having an NES avatar have to do with anything. What I was saying was, pretty much only crappy third party games sell on the Wii. You're blinded by that bright white of your Wii if you think otherwise.

But then again, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just basing my assumptions on the sales (or lack thereof) of Zack and Wiki, Okami, and No More Heroes.

Yes, you're wrong.

Top selling Wii third-party games in the Americas:

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Activision 2,402,672
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
Sega 1,735,696
Carnival Games
Take 2 1,113,414
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Ubisoft 856,817
Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
LucasArts 844,332
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Capcom 825,382
Madden NFL 08
Electronic Arts 775,013
MySims
Electronic Arts 719,636

 

And that's just in the top 20.  Say what you will about the party games but just because you don't like it doesn't make it shovelware.  That title is reserved for crap like Hooked and King of Clubs Mini-Golf and Chicken Shoot.

 



mowe said:
superchunk said:
@mowe, you have a NES avatar yet Wii has "crap" games....


Anywho, yeah, by January the 3rd party market shift will be massively in Nintendo's favor.

 

What does me having an NES avatar have to do with anything. What I was saying was, pretty much only crappy third party games sell on the Wii. You're blinded by that bright white of your Wii if you think otherwise.

But then again, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just basing my assumptions on the sales (or lack thereof) of Zack and Wiki, Okami, and No More Heroes.

 

People always cite these same modestly successful games when they talk about third party Wii sales as if they were failures. They aren't. One of the awesome things about the Wii is that niche games like these can be published, sell a few hundred thousand units, and still make money for the publisher. Which is why you don't see point-and-click puzzle/adventures, radically stylized action/adventures, and insane parody action games on other platforms.



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Yes, despite showing that third party game sell, it's still the crap about "Well Okami, Zak & Wikki, and No More Haroes flopped," line that's used, despite the fact that they have no proof the games cost more to make than their sales.



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

mowe said:
superchunk said:
@mowe, you have a NES avatar yet Wii has "crap" games....


Anywho, yeah, by January the 3rd party market shift will be massively in Nintendo's favor.

 

What does me having an NES avatar have to do with anything. What I was saying was, pretty much only crappy third party games sell on the Wii. You're blinded by that bright white of your Wii if you think otherwise.

But then again, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just basing my assumptions on the sales (or lack thereof) of 1Zack and Wiki, 2Okami, and 3No More Heroes.

 

1.- A point & click adventure that sold +400k.

2.- A port of a low selling game on PS2 that sold almost the same.

3.- The best selling game of the developer. 

WOW the games really flop.



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Its true software sells better on the Wii then it does on PS3/360. However PS3/360 games can be sold on both platforms while it takes along time to port a game from PS3/360 to Wii. The Nintendo Wii is definatly a great place for third parties but it is still in some cases more profitable to stick to the 360/PS3. Games like GrandTheftAuto for example can ship up to 10+ million copies on PS3/360 while a soully Wii version would sell what 4-million or five million copies tops!


This chart isn't that great because porting fees make games on PS3/360 still safer for big budget titles!



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Joelcool7 said:

Its true software sells better on the Wii then it does on PS3/360. However PS3/360 games can be sold on both platforms while it takes along time to port a game from PS3/360 to Wii. The Nintendo Wii is definatly a great place for third parties but it is still in some cases more profitable to stick to the 360/PS3. Games like GrandTheftAuto for example can ship up to 10+ million copies on PS3/360 while a soully Wii version would sell what 4-million or five million copies tops!


This chart isn't that great because porting fees make games on PS3/360 still safer for big budget titles!

 

You can't based how GTA IV would sell exclusively on one system based on a multiplatform release. Worse, you are completely forgetting how well they sold when they were selling (albiet timed) exclusively on the PS2.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Nice good for the wii.