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crumas2 on 12 August 2008
goddog said:
@crumas2, if you were a mac head at the time, you would know that bungie was going to release it for the mac then later port it to the pc. part of the failed mac gaming push.

 

The bolded statement is incorrect.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/068/068975p1.html

"Unfortunately, though we do know that the game will get a simultaneous PC/Mac release sometime in the middle of next year, they've only released a taste of the plot, and one (yes, ONE) screenshot."

http://gamescontent.com/article/312/Halo_Brings_Action_Gamers_A_World_Without_End?cb=209

"The product of the team of master craftsmen who created the multi-award-winning Myth and Marathon series, Halo is being developed for simultaneous release on the Macintosh and Windows platforms."

 

Both release announcements were made before MS bought Bungie, so they're not referring to the releases after the Xbox version.

Also, there were demonstrations of the protoype shown in public on both platforms before the MS purchase of Bungie.  I remember feeling like Bungie had betrayed Mac users when they announced that the PC and Mac releases would be simultaneous... in the past they were either Mac-only or released for Mac first.

 



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Mendicate Bias on 12 August 2008
ssj12 said:
Bursche said:
Pete_Beast said:
Halo? It was Nintendo's wasn't it?

 

No, read the article, it was originally going to be for Mac.

 

but it was also supposed to be released on the PS2

 

Thats the first time I've ever heard that. Where was it ever implied Halo was coming to the PS2? Before Microsoft bought Bungie there were no plans to bring Halo to any console and after Microsoft bought them I'm pretty sure they weren't going to let one of their major launch titles go to the PS2.



                                           

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Mendicate Bias on 12 August 2008
crumas2 said:
goddog said:
@crumas2, if you were a mac head at the time, you would know that bungie was going to release it for the mac then later port it to the pc. part of the failed mac gaming push.

 

The bolded statement is incorrect.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/068/068975p1.html

"Unfortunately, though we do know that the game will get a simultaneous PC/Mac release sometime in the middle of next year, they've only released a taste of the plot, and one (yes, ONE) screenshot."

http://gamescontent.com/article/312/Halo_Brings_Action_Gamers_A_World_Without_End?cb=209

"The product of the team of master craftsmen who created the multi-award-winning Myth and Marathon series, Halo is being developed for simultaneous release on the Macintosh and Windows platforms."

 

Both release announcements were made before MS bought Bungie, so they're not referring to the releases after the Xbox version.

Also, there were demonstrations of the protoype shown in public on both platforms before the MS purchase of Bungie. I remember feeling like Bungie had betrayed Mac users when they announced that the PC and Mac releases would be simultaneous... in the past they were either Mac-only or released for Mac first.

 

 

Thats interesting I was under the impression that it was being made first for mac and then later being ported to the pc. Nevertheless perhaps the success of Halo might have allowed Apple more options at approaching the gaming market.



                                           

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crumas2 on 12 August 2008
Mendicate Bias said:
ssj12 said:

 

but it was also supposed to be released on the PS2

 

Thats the first time I've ever heard that. Where was it ever implied Halo was coming to the PS2? Before Microsoft bought Bungie there were no plans to bring Halo to any console and after Microsoft bought them I'm pretty sure they weren't going to let one of their major launch titles go to the PS2.

http://au.ps2.ign.com/articles/134/134552p1.html

 

 



crumas2 on 12 August 2008
Mendicate Bias said:

 

Thats interesting I was under the impression that it was being made first for mac and then later being ported to the pc. Nevertheless perhaps the success of Halo might have allowed Apple more options at approaching the gaming market.

 

Agreed.  Halo on the Mac and PC first would have at least driven games sales on the Mac through the roof and may have given the market in general the impression that the Mac was a viable gaming platform.



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Mendicate Bias on 12 August 2008
Dodece said:
@scottie

What we have here is a failure to properly evaluate the overall library quality. How did Rare perform on all four respective platforms. Are your judgments based upon quantifiable data or are you letting your perceptions be tinged by nostalgia. Like the man said leave your emotions at the door.

I used IGN for my impartial comparison. The sight is merely more user friendly, and is considered by most to be respectable. What follow are the average scores for Rare by platform. You can use the following link to run the numbers for yourself.

http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025151.html

GameCube 1 game total average of 9.0
Nintendo 64 11 games total average 8.7
Xbox 2 games total average 7.5
Xbox 360 3 games total average 8.4

The data tells the true story. The difference between the 360 and the 64 is one of consistency. Rare has been more consistent on the 360 then it was on the 64. While Rare did bring a fair share of incredible titles to the 64 they also had a few abysmal disappointments. With titles such as Killer Instinct Gold, Mickey's Speedway USA, and even Jet Force Gemini.

Further more if you delve into the realm of flop percentages you will see that across the Xbox family and the Nintendo family the rate is almost identical. Nintendo saw a 17% flop rate while Microsoft has seen a 20% flop rate. So the developer still has the same effective batting average.

The difference between the platforms is minimal being a mere less then half a points difference. That difference isn't even significant enough to not be reversed by a single game being delivered this year. Were BK3 to have a rating of 9.5 or greater. Rare on the 360 could match or outperform Rare on the 64. Which is not inconceivable considering that on the 64 the series averaged a score of 9.5 across two titles.

 

Thank you for actualy taking the time to do some research, unlike some people who simply like to spout out nonsense without a shred of proof. There is no denying that Rare had some phenomenal titles in the past but to act like they produce nothing but crap games since being purchased by Microsoft is ignorance.

For the original xbox they barely made any games, opting to concentrate more on the handheld market. With the 360 they have performed well above average and haven't even released their heavy hitters yet.

Rare has had great games in the past but to call them washed up is foolish. Lets wait a bit before we decide to determine Rare's quality as a game developer.



                                           

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Mendicate Bias on 12 August 2008
crumas2 said:
Mendicate Bias said:
ssj12 said:

 

but it was also supposed to be released on the PS2

 

Thats the first time I've ever heard that. Where was it ever implied Halo was coming to the PS2? Before Microsoft bought Bungie there were no plans to bring Halo to any console and after Microsoft bought them I'm pretty sure they weren't going to let one of their major launch titles go to the PS2.

http://au.ps2.ign.com/articles/134/134552p1.html

 

 

 

That was an interesting read however it seemed like it was based off a rumor more than anything. When ssj12 said it was supposed to have been released for PS2 and then cancelled I assumed there had been an official announcement of the game coming out on the PS2, which there never was.



                                           

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crumas2 on 12 August 2008
Mendicate Bias said:
crumas2 said:
Mendicate Bias said:
ssj12 said:

 

but it was also supposed to be released on the PS2

 

Thats the first time I've ever heard that. Where was it ever implied Halo was coming to the PS2? Before Microsoft bought Bungie there were no plans to bring Halo to any console and after Microsoft bought them I'm pretty sure they weren't going to let one of their major launch titles go to the PS2.

http://au.ps2.ign.com/articles/134/134552p1.html

 

 

 

That was an interesting read however it seemed like it was based off a rumor more than anything. When ssj12 said it was supposed to have been released for PS2 and then cancelled I assumed there had been an official announcement of the game coming out on the PS2, which there never was.

I can't honestly say if Bungie ever planned to release a version for PS2 and Dreamcast.  That may have been a red herring cooked up by Bungie to throw snoopers off the scent while they were in talks with MS.

However, you did ask "Where was it ever implied Halo was coming to the PS2?"  Well, that's one of the places it was implied.

 

 



Mendicate Bias on 12 August 2008
crumas2 said:
Mendicate Bias said:
crumas2 said:
Mendicate Bias said:
ssj12 said:

 

but it was also supposed to be released on the PS2

 

Thats the first time I've ever heard that. Where was it ever implied Halo was coming to the PS2? Before Microsoft bought Bungie there were no plans to bring Halo to any console and after Microsoft bought them I'm pretty sure they weren't going to let one of their major launch titles go to the PS2.

http://au.ps2.ign.com/articles/134/134552p1.html

 

 

 

That was an interesting read however it seemed like it was based off a rumor more than anything. When ssj12 said it was supposed to have been released for PS2 and then cancelled I assumed there had been an official announcement of the game coming out on the PS2, which there never was.

I can't honestly say if Bungie ever planned to release a version for PS2 and Dreamcast. That may have been a red herring cooked up by Bungie to throw snoopers off the scent while they were in talks with MS.

However, you did ask "Where was it ever implied Halo was coming to the PS2?" Well, that's one of the places it was implied.

 

 

haha fine you win :P

 



                                           

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