communism doesnt work. plain and simple.

I think the problem most have with China isn't it's communist-socialism (Which is non-existent considering that companies exist there(And keep that nation from falling like all purely Communist nations)). It is the fact that it is an absolutist dictatorship with almost complete control of media distribution.

Also another reason is the lack of moral responsibility on the Chinese Governments part. Thousands die in coal mines per year is an acceptable loss for them. Complete population controls that ensure abortions of female children, oh well. At least when the US screws up, we try to fix it, China ignores it.

nothing is yours...

The problem with communism is that it's beautifull in theory, then get's screwed over in practice.

The idea starts with the government pretty much governing all. A central body capable to oversee and direct for the good of it's people. In practice, this made the whole government sluggish, immobile. When winter hit Siberia, it would take the Soviet Union well into summer before the whole process of sending extra winterclothing to Siberia complete.

Also, the economic model does not work with actual human beings. You'd get people standing at a shop to open a door just so everyone had work. Or people doing other mundane, unnecessary tasks merely to reach a 100% employment rate.
Link this to the fact that all pay should be equal and there was hardly any incentive for any skilled people to optimize potential. Why would I go through eight years of medschool to become a doctor if I make the same as a guy opening doors all day?

A communist model can only sustain itself in an ideal world.

You know that China is becoming every year more and more a Kapitalism country right? They still have to do a long road but if you would look to China ten years ago and compare with China today you see a lot of new Capitalism influences.

And I own a house in Guangzhou and I got papers from the Chinese state that I own it...I own something that is already a sign that it is changing.

But the word communism is just a excuse for a dictator to rule a country. Their never have exist a real perfect communism because their is always a idiot who rules the country and haves a lot more things than the citizens while that can't be possible in a perfect communism.

Communism countries are bad for Kapitalism countries because the Kapitalism countries don't believe Communism will makes a good society; Oh well the most people in Kapitalism will be anti Communism while Communism countries citizens will be anti-Kapitalism and I read a article some time ago that some citizens of East European countries prefer to go back to the Communism days.

China isn't really a communist country. It's a dictatorship that calls itslef communist.

Communism is bad because it doesn't work outside of very small collectives. It never reaches the second phase outside of small collectives.

Also China is rapidly moving to be a superpower because it adopted capitalist tendencies and practices. It's acceptence of capitalism is what is spurring it's growth as a country.

Without capitalism... China would still be in the situation it was when it was fully communist.  Which if you know someone who lived there around then... you'd know it wasn't pretty.

Well that and a lot of people just feel people should be rewarded for your effort. Most people don't like the idea of a system where the nuclear technician who has to work 60 hours a week gets paid the same as the part time janitor.

That's why Marx himself as well as any other communist leader says communism can't work unless it envelops the world... because most of the people who are working the "harder" more skilled jobs will want to go to a capitalist countries that pay you lots more money.

It does.... because Marx said so... basically communism and capitalism cant' live hand in hand because communist countries would suffer massive "brain drain" as people fled to the better paying capitalist countries.

People need to be "re-trained" to live under a communist system where everyone is paid the same regardless of the effort they put forth.

The basic idea is a giant workers revolution that conquers the world, kills the rich assholes, then a bunch of altrusitic guys take over the government, set up a dictatorship and retrain/thought police everyone into buying into the "everyone is equal" and "Work is it's own reward" ideals.

Then a couple generations down the line, people are jealous not because someone has more stuff then them, but because someone else is a harder worker, and has a more important job.

Then the government fades away because they really aren't needed anymore, and everyone is happy and equal... and the world is just a better place.

Problem is... you've got to

A. Sacrifice a generation or two of people with the old ideals.

B. Be run by altrusitic people when basically everyone is raised by the old ideals.

Result?  The "altruistic" people turn out to not be altrusitic and live it up while forcing everyone else to obey them.

Communism isn't bad. Bad is just a point of view. Communism is actually an ideal that attempts to provide equality(in an odd way) to everyone. What derails this is corruption. Yea, the Cold War is what you should look why communism is bad. It's Russia's Communism, mainly cause it was threatening the both the government and economy of capitalism(atleast that was what it seemed like). By the fall of Russia's government, it started to look like communism wasn't working out. Don't mention China, because its government isn't full blown communism. It has some aspects of capitalism such as its economy...

China works, and is a superpower because they aren't communist. China was communist during the Mao years.

Deng Xiaopeng changed China from a brutal communist nation, into a brutal socalist nation using Capitalism-style trade to further their economic prosperity.

China uses the socialist system to get ahead. Not because they are great, but because they use the system against free-market societies. They fix their prices, and monetary values (like a communist nation), but allow some private businesses that sell goods to the West, since not everyone would like to be seen doing business with "communist China".

The most critical aspect of that is the valuation of their currency. It's not tied to every currency in the world, to give it a fair and free value versus the US Dollar, and Euro, but instead weaker currencies that allow China to gain an advantage for businesses paying for cheap Chinese goods.

So again, that's why they are a brutal socialist country, and not a true Soviet style communist country. Communism works in theory, but horribly in practice (as well as socialism) because you can't treat everything with equality. Not every person can, and should work for the sale dollar value on every job. Not everyone should receive social benefits, because we live in a corrupt world that not everyone does right.

Most countries, even the United States, have shades of communism in itself. We have the Welfare system, Social Security, and Public Schools. All of which are socialistic (ie, for every person in the country). Furthermore, I could easily give you a huge list of services that City governments provide in my area for people. And the root idea of socialism is the government providing for everyone, equally in given ways.

Every country has a shade of socialism. The issue is that China is far more socialist than other countries, but not to the point of everyone having everything in common (hence communism).

If you want to see if communism works for entire countries, I suggest you do studies on the GDP, and economic indexes of the following communist countries:

The USSR
China (49-76)
Cuba
North Korea
Easter Europe (Poland, Hungary, East Germany, ect)
Laos (especially look here during the Pol Pot days)
Somalia
Ethiopia

In every given country, it didn't work. In fact, hundreds of millions of people died supporting (and not supporting) their ideologies. Furthermore, none of the given countries have any sort of decent economy for when they were communist. China is the most removed country from communism of the larger countries, which proves that dumping the system leads to prosperity.

Somalia was never communist they only had brutal dictator lol, Ethopia was communist though in 1977 Somalia and communist Ethopia had a war look it up