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You've probably all seen this:

 

And this:

 

 

But have you really though about what they mean?

November 2006 through May 2008 (assuming they consider launch month a month) for Wii sales, are roughly 55M for Wii, according to this graph, and NPD.

 According to VGC, it is at 73M. It includes Wii Sports, so overall, 61M for NA. That's totally fair.

 

November 2006 through May 2008 Ps3 sales, are 22M according to NPD.

VGChartz has it at 30.8M. Ps3 is also the worst selling in the rest of NA, it's actually at ~ 7%. Sure, Restisance and Motorstorm have been bundled, but they are at just 2.7M. All weren't bundles, so ~ 29M subtracting this.

 

November 2005 through May 2007 for X360 is said to be lacking at VGC. Is it really?

NPD has it at ~ 33M

VGChartz has it at 36.6M. This is before any major bundles really came. This pretty much means we're spot on, if we subtract the rest of NA.

 

So my question is: What am I missing? Both conserning Ps3, which we apparently overtracked by < 20%, and conserning that we have spot on for X360.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

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Nothing...I guess.



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[30.8m - (22m + 2.7m)] - 10% = 5.5 million units above NPD for PS3.

Looks like it's also 5 million above NPD for Wii software too. 61 m (VGC) vs 56m (NPD).

X360 seems almost exactly even.

 

EDIT:  Notice I said "above NPD" and not overtracked.  NPD and VGC are both extrapolated samples meaning neither is correct so one can't be over tracked or undertracked, it can only be under or above related to the other.



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I hope no Sony execs see this thread. They're on suicide watch as it is. Taking previous sales away from them could push them over the edge.



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1000 shitty 3rd party games * 50k = 50 mln.
JUST an assumption.

3rd party doesn`t sell on Wii = a Good 3rd party GAME, that doesn`t sell on Wii,
and NOT TotaL 3rd party games sales on Wii.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

RolStoppable said:
CrazzyMan said:
1000 shitty 3rd party games * 50k = 50 mln.
JUST an assumption.

3rd party doesn`t sell on Wii = a Good 3rd party GAME, that doesn`t sell on Wii,
and NOT TotaL 3rd party games sales on Wii.

Yup, just an assumption. A wrong one.

Yeah, i knew, that only you would be right on this. =)) Anyway, nobody knows.

While it`s a FACT, that good 3rd party games on Wii usually BOMB. =]



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
1000 shitty 3rd party games * 50k = 50 mln.
JUST an assumption.

3rd party doesn`t sell on Wii = a Good 3rd party GAME, that doesn`t sell on Wii,
and NOT TotaL 3rd party games sales on Wii.

1. Games don't sell on Wii.

2. 3rd part games don't sell on Wii.

3. Good 3rd party games don't sell on Wii?

4. Good 3rd party games by X publisher don't sell on Wii.

5. Good 3rd party games by X pulishers in May don't sell on Wii.

6. Good 3rd party games by X publisher in May, around 9 PM at GameStop don't sell on Wii.

 

 

Sorry but this just seems like where the "games don't sell on Wii" debate will eventually lead.

 



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RolStoppable said:
Viper1 said:

[30.8m - (22m + 2.7m)] - 10% = 5.5 million units above NPD for PS3.

Looks like it's also 5 million above NPD for Wii software too. 61 m (VGC) vs 56m (NPD).

X360 seems almost exactly even.

 

EDIT:  Notice I said "above NPD" and not overtracked.  NPD and VGC are both extrapolated samples meaning neither is correct so one can't be over tracked or undertracked, it can only be under or above related to the other.

I think the numbers in the OP (61m for Wii, 30.8m for PS3, 36.6m for 360) are all before the additional 10 % for the rest of America are detucted. That would bring both, the Wii and 360, right in line with NPD numbers after detucting the 10 %, but the PS3 would still be about 4m higher than NPD after removing sales of bundles as well. So the PS3 software total is the only one being off.

Yeah, I noticed that after I posted.  I took off the 10% for PS3 and X360 but just completely forgot about it for Wii.   Spot on then aside from PS3 software being 5 million above NPD.

 



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Viper1 said:
RolStoppable said:
Viper1 said:

[30.8m - (22m + 2.7m)] - 10% = 5.5 million units above NPD for PS3.

Looks like it's also 5 million above NPD for Wii software too. 61 m (VGC) vs 56m (NPD).

X360 seems almost exactly even.

 

EDIT:  Notice I said "above NPD" and not overtracked.  NPD and VGC are both extrapolated samples meaning neither is correct so one can't be over tracked or undertracked, it can only be under or above related to the other.

I think the numbers in the OP (61m for Wii, 30.8m for PS3, 36.6m for 360) are all before the additional 10 % for the rest of America are detucted. That would bring both, the Wii and 360, right in line with NPD numbers after detucting the 10 %, but the PS3 would still be about 4m higher than NPD after removing sales of bundles as well. So the PS3 software total is the only one being off.

Yeah, I noticed that after I posted.  I took off the 10% for PS3 and X360 but just completely forgot about it for Wii.   Spot on then aside from PS3 software being 5 million above NPD.

 

 

 That's what my point was in the OP.

 

And Crazzy, 279 games have launched on Wii. Total sales are ~ 225M

So roughly 800K is normal on Wii

 

Ps3 has 172 games and ~ 90M sales.

That's an average of 520K sales.

 

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

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