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ssj12 said:

and why are there two different versions of the game? all thats different is the controls.... or am I wrong

 

 

i think it has an extra all play mode



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Onyxmeth said:
Onimusha12 said:
ssj12 said:

and why are there two different versions of the game? all thats different is the controls.... or am I wrong

 

 no clue. I'm thinking the Wii version is watered down and made more casual though.

Like Nintendo's own games, The Wii version of Madden 09 is made for EVERYONE. It has a more relaxed, easier to approach side for the new gamers and tons of the old Madden goodness for people that want that. If this is watered down and casual then so are Nintendo's own games.

 

 

 Except Nintendo doesn't also release Super Mario Galaxy on the PS3 and 360 with DLC, online multiplayer, multiple difficulty settings and a T raiting.



This may be one of the Wii's best sports games. (but won't best pro evo 08.)


This will sell 1 mil easy. if anyone says that this is a watered down game, then Nintendo's games must've been soaked this gen. lol j/k (don't throw Wiimotes at me.)



Onimusha12 said:
Onyxmeth said:
Onimusha12 said:
ssj12 said:

and why are there two different versions of the game? all thats different is the controls.... or am I wrong

 

 no clue. I'm thinking the Wii version is watered down and made more casual though.

Like Nintendo's own games, The Wii version of Madden 09 is made for EVERYONE. It has a more relaxed, easier to approach side for the new gamers and tons of the old Madden goodness for people that want that. If this is watered down and casual then so are Nintendo's own games.

 

 

 Except Nintendo doesn't also release Super Mario Galaxy on the PS3 and 360 with DLC, online multiplayer, multiple difficulty settings and a T raiting.

 

Can't compare that, SMG is first party title and Madden is basically on all platforms.

Anyways, that a great score. I hoped they fixed the franchise glitch where u save a franchise and the next time u load it, the game freezes. But online sounds fixed and Call-your-shots is the best new feature there. Might get it but I alrdy have 08 so imma wait for more reviews.



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End of 2009 Predictions (made Jan 1, 2009): My predictions were pretty accurate, the 360 was over and the Wii was just under.

Wii: 65 mil (yea I'm crazy) 360: 35 mil (its getting there) PS3: 30 mil (the slim better do well)

End of 2010 Predictions (made Jan 7, 2010):

Wii: 81 mil  360: 47 mil PS3: 45 mil


Onimusha12 said:
Onyxmeth said:
Onimusha12 said:
ssj12 said:

and why are there two different versions of the game? all thats different is the controls.... or am I wrong

 

 no clue. I'm thinking the Wii version is watered down and made more casual though.

Like Nintendo's own games, The Wii version of Madden 09 is made for EVERYONE. It has a more relaxed, easier to approach side for the new gamers and tons of the old Madden goodness for people that want that. If this is watered down and casual then so are Nintendo's own games.

 

 

 Except Nintendo doesn't also release Super Mario Galaxy on the PS3 and 360 with DLC, online multiplayer, multiple difficulty settings and a T raiting.

You can't have it all. EA sees different demographics to hit with the Wii Madden 09. I'm sure we would all agree there are different demographics on the Wii than the 360 and PS3. Like it has been thrown so many times in my own face, you are not the only gamer that matters in regards to the Wii. Nintendo expanded the market and EA is following their lead. It isn't watered down but more accessible.

About your complaints, blame Nintendo for no DLC, online multiplayer is in Madden 09 so stop living under a rock, are you sure about the difficulty settings and who cares if it's T or E? It's football. Here's an excerpt from the IGN review I'm sure you didn't bother to read before making your snap judgements:

On the Wii front, things are taking a bit of a different turn, but not one that's overly bold this reviewer's opinion, or one that's out to alienate anyone from the game of football. Yes, EA has put the new "All-Play" name on its product this year (and more than just Madden), but after putting this year though its respective paces, we're on EA's side on this move. The company has managed to open the game of football to a wider audience with simpler control, easier interface, and an "anyone can play" philosophy that actually does come through, while at the same time making the game entirely customizable and open for the hardcore gamers. If you found it in previous Wii Madden games, you're going to find it here, and you'll most likely find it refined or improved on in some way.

Gosh golly gee that sounds like they understand Nintendo's philosophy. Yet here you are complaining about it.

 



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Cool I be sure to be preorder it tomorrow so I can get the goodies



Some nice quotes from IGN:

"The company has managed to open the game of football to a wider audience with simpler control, easier interface, and an "anyone can play" philosophy that actually does come through, while at the same time making the game entirely customizable and open for the hardcore gamers."

"5-on-5 mode is a new arcade take on the game, with big heads, smaller teams, and only four plays for both offense and defense."

"The hardcore users can still go in there, select plays by type or formation, and find exactly what you're looking for so All-Play isn't stepping on any toes in the play select section of the game."

"And really, that's all there is to the All-Play idea. It's different, yes, but it also works, and leaves enough options (on everything but Mii interface) for the hardcore to tweak."

"...with everything from 07 and 08, and its still really respectable. 5-on-5 is new, online is back and far more fleshed out, but then you've got the laundry list of other modes from previous games, including of course play now, party mode, multiplayer mini-games including the classic 2-on-2, kicking combine, YAC attack, rushing attack, and mini-camp competition, as well as franchise mode, superstar mode, a learn Madden section for newbies to the game, and a custom practice mode with in-game, solo, or customized situational drill practice."

"The hardcore shouldn't write Madden 09 off though, and there's a good reason why not. While EA didn't go into specific modes and tweaks for the hardcore players, the company did make global changes that improved the game for everyone, and they paid off in a big way. Characters look better in-game, now with more grit and uniform detail, the arenas look better, and the optional add-on visual effects (which I personally like, since they're a mix of arcade and classic Madden visuals) really give All-Play it's own attitude. Remember, they can be turned off if you aren't into them. More importantly though, the game is just cleaner. In our whole time previewing and reviewing the game we never had the random pass bug from 08, didn't have moronic frozen AI or route bugs, and only once had a play halted for a few seconds while some random player had to find his way back to the front line, and that was once out of over 40 hours of gameplay."

"The number one reason to pick up Madden 09 though, is the new Call Your Shot mode, and if EA realizes what an incredible gameplay addition it has on its hands with Call You Shot, you'll see dozens of features based on it for next year. Call Your Shot allows for active, IR-made hot routes during any passing play, so a simple tap of the A button lets you re-draw any receiver route pre-snap, and decimate the competition."

 

There's plenty more, I picked out positives but it's a really good fair and balanced review.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Good score



Looks great. I'm not sure I'll get it though.



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Onyxmeth said:
Onimusha12 said:
Onyxmeth said:
Onimusha12 said:
ssj12 said:

and why are there two different versions of the game? all thats different is the controls.... or am I wrong

 

 no clue. I'm thinking the Wii version is watered down and made more casual though.

Like Nintendo's own games, The Wii version of Madden 09 is made for EVERYONE. It has a more relaxed, easier to approach side for the new gamers and tons of the old Madden goodness for people that want that. If this is watered down and casual then so are Nintendo's own games.

 

 

 Except Nintendo doesn't also release Super Mario Galaxy on the PS3 and 360 with DLC, online multiplayer, multiple difficulty settings and a T raiting.

You can't have it all. EA sees different demographics to hit with the Wii Madden 09. I'm sure we would all agree there are different demographics on the Wii than the 360 and PS3. Like it has been thrown so many times in my own face, you are not the only gamer that matters in regards to the Wii. Nintendo expanded the market and EA is following their lead. It isn't watered down but more accessible.

About your complaints, blame Nintendo for no DLC, online multiplayer is in Madden 09 so stop living under a rock, are you sure about the difficulty settings and who cares if it's T or E? It's football. Here's an excerpt from the IGN review I'm sure you didn't bother to read before making your snap judgements:

On the Wii front, things are taking a bit of a different turn, but not one that's overly bold this reviewer's opinion, or one that's out to alienate anyone from the game of football. Yes, EA has put the new "All-Play" name on its product this year (and more than just Madden), but after putting this year though its respective paces, we're on EA's side on this move. The company has managed to open the game of football to a wider audience with simpler control, easier interface, and an "anyone can play" philosophy that actually does come through, while at the same time making the game entirely customizable and open for the hardcore gamers. If you found it in previous Wii Madden games, you're going to find it here, and you'll most likely find it refined or improved on in some way.

Gosh golly gee that sounds like they understand Nintendo's philosophy. Yet here you are complaining about it.

 

 

 I thought Nintendo's philosophy was deeper than simply making everything casual. Rather I assumed it was using Casual as a foothold in the market to expand up through the third tier to the second tier to finally first tier third party games.

Nintendo's philosophy is expanding their market so that core and hardcore games can find a home there, not be turned into casual interpretations.

If this works for Madden then fine, but you're going to defend it by saying, "Casual is the way to go" whether that's the case or not for Madden, I'm going to have to take issue with it.