I think a lot of people have never played Symphony of the Night. Just an observation.

The game has tons and tons of symbolism.

SOTN is not an original title. 

However it does exist, and is in fact "on" XBLA. A step further, it has enhanced graphics and leaderboards built to function with the service.

Braid does have a ton of symbolism. However, to assert that ANY game is "obviously" or "way" better than SotN, is folly imo, and it is likely the result of an opinion created by a person who has never played said game, and possibly generalized it as "Just a Castlevania game."

OT: Braid is a great game, and I've only played the demo so far. When I grab a points card for CC, I'll probably pick up Braid ... and maybe Bionic Commando: Rearmed, too.

I'm with sieanr on this one. It's not that Symphony of the Night isn't the best damn title on Xbox Live, hell it's better than any 360 game in existence. But it's a port and therefore doesn't really register in my mind when I think these best games up. The best title on the Wii is most definitely either Gunstar Heroes or Super Mario World, but I wouldn't count them if asked. It's just preference. Everyone knows SOTN is godly though. Then again, Braid is quickly joining the SOTN camp of "never aging gameplay".

@Dolla-You and me buddy, all day all night Castle Crashers. We'll be an unstoppable team.

To add my opinion to the discussion above. SOTN is my favourite game of all time and ive played it many times before i got it on xbox live. Hell I'll play it again soon beacuse last time i beat it, I beat it under a non xbox live gamertag...

So I don't think saying "the game is not an original game so its not the best on live" is valid since even as an enhanced PS1 port the game still spanks 90% of actual store bought 360 games.

Also, if Braid impresses me more than SOTN did...I will change my avatar here. :)

I can only agree. +1,000,000 to you!

It's not that it doesn't count. It's just that it doesn't count. Get it?

When people talk about the best games they've played this generation, they usually mean new titles, not titles they revisited from the past. Then again, there were some calling this blankly the best game on Xbox Live. Neither can I complain about. SOTN is godly, and has passed the test of time going on 11 years now, but...

Braid really is good. I don't mean normal good. I mean change the way you think about games good. It oozes innovation like it's going out of style. I can't put Braid up over SOTN because i've played and replayed SOTN for years and years across multiple platforms(PSP, PSOne, 360), and yet I can see Braid in that same league one day, because everything that makes the game great, it's art style, gameplay and story, will probably never age a day, same as SOTN.

I'll accept that explaination. Good post. I do, however, think that for a game to reach that SotN ballpark, it needs to stand the test of time. We won't know that for a while. Otherwise, again, good post. I understand that method of thinking.

How come I here more complaints about this price than I do about FF:CC:MLAAK

Oh, because we FF Fanboys will pay what ever master tells us.