Jesus, what happened to this forum? When did it get invaded by Sony fanboys? 150 million? What have you injected yourselves with?
| NintendoMan said: No, one reason being because PS2 owners are moving to the Wii/360. It wont even reach 100 million. In fact I am so confident in that, that should the PS3 pass 100 million I will give all vgchartz members £100. |
Come on now, don't encourage people to create multiple accounts!
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| TheSource said: Do you guys work for viral marketers? Its going to be a cold day in hell when we don't have at least five of these threads a day. On topic: No. Ten Reasons: 1) The ten year plan is nonsense. PS2 will still sell 1m units in 2011 because its peak was so high, thats year 11 from the 2000 Japan launch. The plan is theoretical. It worked even better than expected with PS2 because PS2 had the highest peak of any system ever (21m+ shipped in a year) until DS last year (30.3m shipped in a year). 2) Xbox 360 is more viable than Xbox ever was in all three regions worldwide. 3) Wii is trending faster than DS and DS is trending faster than PS2. In other words, regionally Wii sales>PS2 sales>PS3 sales 4) Blu Ray relevance is over rated, its not enough of a step up for most people to become the DVD of the future. I know 30 people in my college with HD TVs, 20 of them have Wiis, none of them have Blu Ray. I know thats just anecdotal, so here is better evidence: Japan and Europe have higher adoption rates of Blu Ray than USA, and Wii still outsells PS3 in those reasons. I see no reason to expect a change, as Wii is close to $400 in much of Europe vs. PS3 at $600 - both are overpriced. 5) Most big hits are now multiplatform, Wii, DS or PSP games. 6) PS2 sold over 7m in the USA in three years in the Americas, and over 4m in Japan in its peak. PS3 is going to have issues peaking at 2m in a year in Japan and over 5m in the USA in one year, let alone multiple years that it would need to top PS2. 7) Wii & Xbox 360 will always be cheaper than PS3, and if PS3 started to gain momentum (i.e. outselling the other two by a wide margin worldwide), one or both successors would be announced, and the PS3 tech advantage would dissappear overnight as would the sales momentum. 8) Sony can't aggressively cut prices right now because the world economy is in the shitter. By extension Sony is making less money than they would be otherwise and they lose money on PS3. Selling more PS3s is actually bad for Sony at the moment even though alot of the costs are recouped from software. 9) Higher development costs and slower launch sales mean that PS3 development is risky for developers. There are only so many games that can sell 1 million copies on a base of 15m, and with diminishing returns vs. last gen, the portables, PS2, PC, Wii and cellphones look like better investments. 10) Women greatly prefer Wii to traditional platforms. Even if you think think only sells to a fraction of the men PS2 does, women are very under-served in this industry, and catering to them is a way to achieve huge growth very quickly. Make no mistake, DS wouldn't be where it is without women, and Wii is following a similar trajectory. Among men, Xbox 360 hurts PS3 in the west since its cheaper, and Wii hurts PS3 because its more diversified and cheaper. |
1. the ps2 didn't sold those 21+ the first year, neither the DS its 30+ actually after it third year+, the ps3 still have a chance go go the long way it may not be 150 million but closer the 75- 100 millions
2. yes it more competive but its loosing ground faster than anything and still now the xbox its pretty much nothing in japan, and soon will be outsold in europe.
3. and wii owners will not buy a ps3?, wii its hardly a step up over the gamecube, i bought wii first, but then all the games are play are still going HD to the ps3 so i bought one, how you do know people are not going to buy a second console to play ff13 or re5? look at GTA4 monsters sales.
4. DVD was nothing its first years either, blu ray won the war, it may have no serious impact in the ps3 sales but its already choosen as teh deco facto HD movie format.
what the wii had to do anything with movies? it doesn't even play DVDs, oh wait.. i get it, wii games actually look good on a 50' 1080p /sarcams.
5. multiplatform as ps3/xbox360 ff13 re5 gta4 are on it.
6. in japan 2 games.. final fantasy xii, final fantasy xiii versus, will make it close to that in the year of release, but i doubt in the US they will be able to do that, in europe easily.
7. even they are cheaper that doesn't mean they are going to stop selling ps3, even with shortages lower priced xbox360
ps3 been outselling it.
8. as right now... but that doesn't mean it can't reach a 299$ sweet spot price in the comming years, look what 100$ +mgs4 discount did to the US a month ago 400k in just weeks.
9. thats why they are focusing on first party. with games like heavy rain, GT5, team ico project, god of war 3 they have good line up for 2009-2010, and even so considering it growing they are getting many HD multiplatforms.
10. ps2 didn't have many women games actually nothing compared to the DS but the ps2 it close the 140 millions.
ps3 will do well, in the console market sony it years away to be outshined, they may not make 150 million ps3 in 10 years but the ps3 will do well enough to not be considered a failure like the dreamcast.
I once had a 10-year plan for some girl, but it didn't work, she clearly didn't agree.
My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957
A system with the momentium of the PS2, or that defines its value outside of raw processing power like the Wii, can survive in a market where it is dramatically underpowered in relation to its competition. A system that defines its value in processing power or high tech features (like the PS3 does) that does not have the momentium and third party support from being the market leader will have a very difficult time after a (much) higher performance system with more advanced features is released at an affordable price.
In other words, when the next generation begins a the PS3 is going to be one of the systems that has the most difficulty maintaining its sales.
| RolStoppable said: Sony's ten year plan for the PS3 is one of the most idiotic things in videogames history. What's worse is that so many people seem to actually believe in that plan. |
PS1 did more than 9 years, and PS2 running strong into it's ninth year.......
4 ≈ One
It doesn't matter if they reach 200. The gen will be over before they get close to 100.
slimeattack said:
KH3 being a Wii exclusive is one of the most pathetic predictions ever. Why would they make it for the Wii when RPGs don't sell on it? |
| RolStoppable said: Sony's ten year plan for the PS3 is one of the most idiotic things in videogames history. What's worse is that so many people seem to actually believe in that plan. |
It is these "idiotic" plans that have made Sony one of the biggest corporations in the world...
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