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HD-DVD died too early, had it lived longer, competition would have driven prices lower and now we'd see cheaper BD players and movies and higher sales. Higher BD drives production would have lowered faster its price too, lowering also PS3 production costs. Anyhow, in a year BD drives will be quite cheap, and Cell will be cheaper too, so Sony costs nightmare will be finally over. If Sony will be eager to overtake MS before, it will have to work on pricing too, so it will cost money, but it could pay more in the mid and long term, so it's up to them to decide.
PR spin is just what we have to expect, as Sony will do anything that could help, but hey, doesn't MS always do the same? (I didn't say Nintendo, because Wii's success exceeded even their rosiest predictions).



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Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
sparkit34 said:

I think people are have just become immune to this new pushed adoption policy by the market.

 

Which reminds me, I fully expect studios within a couple of years to start releasing the Blu-Ray version earlier than the DVD version, and then with some movies, to release exclusively on Blu-Ray.

 

This is not going to happen unless Sony pays for it to happen.  DVD sales generate huge amounts of revenue, and studios are not going to limit their potential market so some other company can enlarge theirs.  Given Sony's moneyhat policy don't hold your breath waiting for this to happen.



akuma587 said:
NJ5 said:
akuma587 said:
It really doesn't matter at this point that Blu-Ray isn't taking off faster than DVD because all the movie studios, retailers, and major electronic manufacturers (including the Chinese) have jumped on board.

I guarantee that many people who say they will "never" buy Blu-Ray will buy it once it reaches price equity with DVD, or when studios start pulling the plug on DVD (through the same means they did with VHS, timed release advantages for Blu-Ray, extra features, etc.).

I'm not terribly knowledgeable about the media market, but I think it's naive to say it doesn't matter that Blu-Ray has slower adoption. Cost reductions in both players and discs rely partly on mass manufacturing, something which can not happen as well with a slow adoption curve.

Take this with a grain of salt, though...

@MikeB: In terms of brand power, that's true for the mainstream market, I'm just not so sure it's true nowadays for the tech-savvy market.

 

I am just saying Blu-Ray is no longer facing the obstacles that were holding it back in the past, partial studio support, much more floor space in major retailers (the difference in Wal-Mart for instance is like night and day compared to last year), and electronic manufacturers making all kinds of players and computer drives (compared to HD-DVD, which had only one real backer, Toshiba).

Blu-Ray sales are up 300% this year, so obviously its got something good going for it.

http://www.electronichouse.com/article/blu_ray_sales_up_300/

 

300% yoy isn't that remarkable considering how slowley it got off the ground.

DVD had a way higher YOY.



Diomedes1976 said:
Actual numbers say otherwise to this article.The introduction of BR in Asia is quite fast and in Europe its 6 times faster that what DVD was.

vs DVD PLAYERS.

Disc consumption is something different all together. With disc sales being well below US Disc sales. Combined they don't equal what DVDs sold in the US alone at this point.

Worldwide combined numbers likely don't match DVD disc sales at this point unless asia accounts for 70%+ of all blu-ray disc sales.



NJ5 said:

To put the icing on the cake, here is a report saying DVD sales in the first two years were at 16.3 million, already higher than Blu-Ray after 3 2 years:

http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/20/26720.php

Seems to me like there's a lot of spin going on in those optimistic reports.

 

 

16.3? That's way below the official DVD consortium numbers... Ah i see also it would be 2 years vs 3. DVD started 2 quarter into the year just like Blu-ray did.

DVD sales exploded... from that time Nielson got 16.3 total DVD sales rose to over 80 million at this time from the official numbers.  I'll see if i can dig them up again.



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wtf is this.

bluray is better than dvd and hddvd.

especially for games as time goes on, developers will be better off making on bluray as in the recent rage fiasco shows, i feel sorry for purchasers of the toned down rage!



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Kasz216 said:
NJ5 said:

To put the icing on the cake, here is a report saying DVD sales in the first two years were at 16.3 million, already higher than Blu-Ray after 3 2 years:

http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/20/26720.php

Seems to me like there's a lot of spin going on in those optimistic reports.

 

 

16.3? That's way below the official DVD consortium numbers... Ah i see also it would be 2 years vs 3. DVD started 2 quarter into the year just like Blu-ray did.

DVD sales exploded... from that time Nielson got 16.3 total DVD sales rose to over 80 million at this time from the official numbers.  I'll see if i can dig them up again.

I was going to post something to (part of) that effect, but I was afraid to be called a HD-DVD supporter again.

 



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Skeeuk said:

wtf is this.

bluray is better than dvd and hddvd.

especially for games as time goes on, developers will be better off making on bluray as in the recent rage fiasco shows, i feel sorry for purchasers of the toned down rage!

 

Did you even read the OP/cited article?  The entire thread is about sales, it has nothing to do with perceived quality or utility.



NJ5 said:
Kasz216 said:
NJ5 said:

To put the icing on the cake, here is a report saying DVD sales in the first two years were at 16.3 million, already higher than Blu-Ray after 3 2 years:

http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/20/26720.php

Seems to me like there's a lot of spin going on in those optimistic reports.

 

 

16.3? That's way below the official DVD consortium numbers... Ah i see also it would be 2 years vs 3. DVD started 2 quarter into the year just like Blu-ray did.

DVD sales exploded... from that time Nielson got 16.3 total DVD sales rose to over 80 million at this time from the official numbers. I'll see if i can dig them up again.

I was going to post something to (part of) that effect, but I was afraid to be called a HD-DVD supporter again.

 

I don't get why people are pushing drive adoption over disc adoption when the drives can be used for other things.

What happens when PS2's start getting counted as DVD players?

Big stories about Blu-ray adoption suddenly slowing to less then half of what DVD adoption did. (Though DVD was already firmly settled and popular by the time it came out.



Kasz216 said:

I don't get why people are pushing drive adoption over disc adoption when the drives can be used for other things.

What happens when PS2's start getting counted as DVD players?

 

Because that was the easiest way to spin us into believing that Blu-Ray was growing faster than mould on a month-old piece of bread.

I mean, look at this thread. You have several people who still seemed to believe that even after concrete data was posted to disprove it. Clearly, the spin is working.

 



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