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a12331 on 06 August 2008
steven787 said:
The main question is it worth it for games for the extra RAM?

Money isn't an issue, I'm not getting rid of 32bit, just adding 64.

It will make things run smoother but most games wont need more than 2 gigs and vista would only need 1 for background tasks. Short answer is no you wont see a huge increase of performance but you will see a increase in performance. I would get it now and partition your 10k, 45-50 gigs for 64bit and the rest for games.  

 



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Darc Requiem on 07 August 2008
a12331 said:
Darc Requiem said:
I run 64-bit Vista on my new laptop and I haven't had any real issues.

Core 2 Duo T7350 (2.0GHZ)
4GB RAM (1066mhz)
FSB 1066mhz
512MB GeForce 9700GTS

 

just out of curiosity what laptop is that

There is the link for my laptop on Toshiba's page.

http://explore.toshiba.com/laptops/qosmio/X305



Chemical on 08 August 2008

I went with the 64 bit version when I was building my PC two months ago and so far I havent had any problems with the 64bit version. The only case was Half Life 2 was not running well in 64bit version but I just forced the game to run in 32bit. The only games that I truly had problems with were made for Windows 95 and DOS, but if that new service comes out that sells old games and optimizes them for newer computers then even that should not be a problem.

Even though you might not need as much as 4gig of RAM now but you will need it in a year or two down the road. Also, 32bit can only suppport 4gig of Memory total which includes your video card memory, so if you ever run two cards in crossfire you will only be able to have 3 gigs of RAM.



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steven787 on 08 August 2008
Chemical said:
I went with the 64 bit version when I was building my PC two months ago and so far I havent had any problems with the 64bit version. The only case was Half Life 2 was not running well in 64bit version but I just forced the game to run in 32bit. The only games that I truly had problems with were made for Windows 95 and DOS, but if that new service comes out that sells old games and optimizes them for newer computers then even that should not be a problem.

Even though you might not need as much as 4gig of RAM now but you will need it in a year or two down the road. Also, 32bit can only suppport 4gig of Memory total which includes your video card memory, so if you ever run two cards in crossfire you will only be able to have 3 gigs of RAM.

 

Many/Most of those games don't work on my Vista 32 platform either.

Also, is that bold part true?  I did not know that.



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obieslut on 08 August 2008
steven787 said:

(Pretend money isn't an issue)

Hey, I'm gonna get a second drive for my gaming PC. A 10k RPM with loads of cache.

 

Do you think I should dual boot 64 so I can take advantage of more RAM?

Do you think I should partition or use the 10k exclusively? (Edit: for 64)

Are DX10 and DX11 games supporting more ram?

Add anything you can think of here.

 

Current specs:

Intel Quad Core Q6600

4 GB RAM (1000MHz)

7200 RPM 250GB HDD

Nvidia 8800GT 512 MB RAM

Vista 32

 

i got over 4 ram an me xp dnt decate it, o have had vista 64bit and it isnt worth the extra ram, it uncomtressed data at really slow speeds on me computer, but its up to you kid



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Goddbless on 08 August 2008
steven787 said:
Chemical said:
I went with the 64 bit version when I was building my PC two months ago and so far I havent had any problems with the 64bit version. The only case was Half Life 2 was not running well in 64bit version but I just forced the game to run in 32bit. The only games that I truly had problems with were made for Windows 95 and DOS, but if that new service comes out that sells old games and optimizes them for newer computers then even that should not be a problem.

Even though you might not need as much as 4gig of RAM now but you will need it in a year or two down the road. Also, 32bit can only suppport 4gig of Memory total which includes your video card memory, so if you ever run two cards in crossfire you will only be able to have 3 gigs of RAM.

 

Many/Most of those games don't work on my Vista 32 platform either.

Also, is that bold part true? I did not know that.

I say partition it and dual boot! I'm not sure if the bold is true however as I have never used a crossfire setup. Actually i don't know anyone that uses a crossfire setup, only SLI.



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Chemical on 08 August 2008

From what I have read, 32 bit can only support 4 gigs of memory which includes video memory so even if you dont crossfire and have a 512mb video card then you can only have 3.5 gigs of RAM, add any more and your PC simply will not see it. I am just telling you what I know and I have no incentive to lie, if I am providing false information please correct me for I would like to know more as well.

But as I have said, I have Vista 64bit and all of the compatibility issues can be easily resolved, I am currently playing Grim Fandango and that's a 10 year old game. Took me about 5 - 10 minutes of googling to figure out how to properly run it but it is a minor one time inconvenience.



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steven787 on 08 August 2008

Thanks Chemical and Goddbless, I seriously think I should upgrade then.

Goddbless, is it better than hardwired separate booting off of different HDD? Why? (I'm not challenging, I really want to learn)



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