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steven787 on 06 August 2008
Zuhyc said:
steven787 said:
DMeisterJ said:

Here's a nice picture of how much Snake had to do with this profit.

So do people still want to believe that MGS4 will be a financial travesty and have to be ported to the XBOX 360 as well?

 

MGS4 on 360 would probably not benefit Konami or Microsoft too much.  I always said this.

That's a pretty graph, why such an increase in Wii and 360?

PES 08 had good sales on all systems, and probably some other japanese games for the Wii.

 

 

Thanks, now it makes sense.



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I_own_a_PS3 on 06 August 2008

Thank you Solid Snake. I love you Sony.



akuma587 on 06 August 2008

Alright, we are assuming they have sold around 4 million to retailers and that they make about $40 per game (the average is probably higher than that, they made more than that in Japan with higher pricing, and the discrepancy between the dollar and the yen is beneficial to Konami, a Japanese company, not to mention how overpriced games in Europe are)

3,940,000 x $40 = $157,600,000

So even if we assume a $70 million dev cost, Konami has already DOUBLED that.



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Onimusha12 on 06 August 2008
akuma587 said:
Alright, we are assuming they have sold around 4 million to retailers and that they make about $40 per game (the average is probably higher than that, they made more than that in Japan with higher pricing, and the discrepancy between the dollar and the yen is beneficial to Konami, a Japanese company, not to mention how overpriced games in Europe are)

3,940,000 x $40 = $157,600,000

So even if we assume a $70 million dev cost, Konami has already DOUBLED that.

 

 where are you getting that they're making $40 a unit. I want a link.

Also I think a more realistic figure of units shipped would be within the range of 3-3.5m, not 4. It all boils down to how much money they make off each unit. Either way, while I doubt they've broken even, they're probably getting close.



Noobie on 06 August 2008

btw from where $70 m development cost has come.?



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Onimusha12 on 06 August 2008
Noobie said:
btw from where $70 m development cost has come.?

 

 It was stated in a pod cast I believe a long time ago.



Kyros on 06 August 2008

Actually I proved it


You aren't proving anything you are hallucinating. 60$ per game 10$ for Sony (or possibly less for MGS4) 12$ for retail == 38$ for the publisher.

Soon they will have 3m sold * 38$ = 114m$. Most likely they won't have to pay the 10$, I am sure they have gotten great conditions from Sony for keeping this exclusive.

So they have not only made a pretty penny but a very handsome dollar from MGS4 ALREADY. And since MGS4 will keep on selling ...

So forget it.



iron_megalith on 06 August 2008

Ok.. Let's give in.. MGS4 is a lost cause. IT LOST MORE MONEY THAN IT MADE.

There... are you happy? :S



hunter_alien on 06 August 2008
Onimusha12 said:

Considering MGS4's 57.3% of that quarterly profit is a little under $30m, I think its safe to assume the game is a good ways off from making back its $70m+ cost of development.

MGS4 still is a financial dissaster. Though to truly determine that we would have to know how much MGS4 sold in the first quarter to put things in proper context. Even if we assume MGS4 has made just as much money since the first quarter ended it would still be $10m beneath making its money back.

It's only a profit for the short term of this quarter and for this quarter's expenses, not for MGS4's development cost as a whole. Even then Konami is still making less than half of their revenue back.

 

That is asuming that Konami payed for full development cost... I dont know about you but its a bit suspicious that Sony managed to keep a 3rd party title of this caliber as an exclusive whitout paying any money...

 

Anyways, profit rise was as expected. SS did his job as anyone had hoped it will :)



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Leetgeek on 06 August 2008
Onimusha12 said:

Considering MGS4's 57.3% of that quarterly profit is a little under $30m, I think its safe to assume the game is a good ways off from making back its $70m+ cost of development.

MGS4 still is a financial dissaster. Though to truly determine that we would have to know how much MGS4 sold in the first quarter to put things in proper context. Even if we assume MGS4 has made just as much money since the first quarter ended it would still be $10m beneath making its money back.

It's only a profit for the short term of this quarter and for this quarter's expenses, not for MGS4's development cost as a whole. Even then Konami is still making less than half of their revenue back.