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colonelstubbs said:
Miller wins because of Watchmen

Huh? What now?

I'm choosing Miller. It's hard to choose between the two but I just treasure Miller's work too much to pick Alan Moore.

 



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nothing of importance. Gaiman really has that one magnum opus. he has written two fantasy novels, but they dont count
but i hear hes gonna do 2 issues for batman(following R.I.P)



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BringBackChrono said:
nothing of importance. Gaiman really has that one magnum opus. he has written two fantasy novels, but they dont count
but i hear hes gonna do 2 issues for batman(following R.I.P)

Ah, I don't really read comics anymore. I think that's a good thing because I'm starting work on one myself. It gives me room to think without my head getting clouded by others' ideas.

After I get settled in a bit with the series, I'll probably start picking up books again and reading stuff I missed over the past 6-7 years (I still read some trades, just not many).




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I'd probably pick Miller, his style is so great.



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BenKenobi88 said:
I'd probably pick Miller, his style is so great.

Well that's not fair. Moore doesn't draw. 

 




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Frank Miller vs Alan Moore to me is like putting up Crazy Quilt vs the Hulk in a boxing match.

Frank Miller's Daredevil was ok, Dark Knight returns was great... Sin city was good... almost everything else he's done has been a steaming pile of crap to the point of where he's a self parody... and all the misogny is just waaaaaay over the top.

While Alan Moore made two comics that are instant top 10 of all time story arcs in Watchman and V for Vendetta. Of which I believe V for Vendetta was all original characters.

So was Watchman... but... they were heavily borrowed from the Charlton Comics characters. (Dr. Manhattan/Atom, Owlman/Blue Beetle, Rorschach/The Question)

Frank Miller has had his momenets... but his overall quality is just horrible.

Honestly I think Alan Moore wrote the better Batman Story.

Dark Knight Returns and Batman Year one are great... but Killing Joke is better.

No one comes close to Alan Moore.



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I agree with you that if the entire body of work is seen Moore beats Miller,
but there is no way i can agree that The Kiling Joke( a good story though) is better than Dark Knight Returns or Batman Year One.These two are hall of famers for me, whereas Killing Joke doesnt really come into contention for my 10 fav graphic novels.



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I think that Moore is more of an "intellectual" writer and Miller is more of a "rebellious" one. A lot of the messages that Miller passes are mysoginistic and very much towards "society is completely corrupt and we have to rise up and fight it".

But I find his take on Batman (the psychology) and Daredevil (in Born Again) amazing. And since his body of work is more accessible to people (like me), I choose Miller.

P.S. - The first time I read Watchmen I thought that the castaway story in the comic the kid is reading was so boring that I just skipped through it. I just couldn´t grasp what he was trying to say with it. I wasn´t mature enough. I always tell myself to read it again but it´s one of those things you just keep putting off.



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rocketpig said:
mrjuju said:
My nod goes for Miller, he doesn't seem to want to force his message on you with ever syllable he writes. Not to say he doesn't have one, of course, but he is much less preachy than Moore.

Although I would put DKR and Watchmen as a solid tie for second best graphic novel, with the first place honors being split between Bone (I count the whole series) and Death: The High Cost of Living.

Wait... You call Moore preachy and then prop up Death: The High Cost of Living, the originator of the whiny emo book genre? Death was good, but I found parts of it insufferable and definitely not on the level of Watchmen or a handful of Moore's other work.

Props to the Bone nod, though. Bone was bloody freakin' brilliant (though the last few trades didn't live up to the earlier work... I let it slide because it was almost impossible to live up to the first two trades in that series).

 

 

I think it was the fact that he was preaching to the whiney emo kids and telling 'em to knock it off and enjoy life that sold me on it. I like anyone who equates eating a hot dog with the best day of their life ^_^  Although the rest of the Sandman was hit or miss for me, that one spin off made the whole run worthwhile.

As a side note, thanks to work, this reply took over 2 hours to write. Huzzah :P

 



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rocketpig said:

I went off and on with Sandman... Honestly, I can't rank the series. I would pick up a few issues, get interested, and then trail off again and ignore it for awhile.

I should probably read the whole damned thing one of these days.

Has Gaiman really done any books since The Sandman?

Gaiman started doing children's books and then novels after the Sandman series. I don't think he's really done any comics/graphic novels since the Sandman. I really loved the Sandman before. I haven't checked out any of his novels, but I should get aroud to it. :)

OT: DKR was a great read, so I have to go with Miller though I haven't really read any of Moore's work.




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