De85 said: Leetgeek said: I think the reason that PS3 had a slow start is the same reason it will have a long life. It's expensive future proof components. To me it's like 06-07 ps3 didn't even exist.   Does anybody besides me find it slighty (overwhelmingly) ironic to talk about how the PS3 is "future proof" in a thread about the PS4??

 

Nope.

 I just find the ignorace in it hialrious, these kids have no sense od R&D.  They fail to comphehand that the seconda product goes on market its successor is already being designed.

reask said: Profcrab said: reask said: profcrab said Microsoft will most likely move to Blu-Ray with the next Xbox I actually dont think they will profcrab.   Microsoft stuck with DVD with the 360 for a very solid reason that doesn't have anything to do with Sony having a large stake in Blu-Ray, DVD was ready and didn't cost them any extra developement.  Blu-Ray will be cheaper and more mature by the time the next xbox comes out.  By the end of this generation, more and more developers are going to want more than 9.4GB for their games.  There is also the use of the system as a video player that some people like.  I will very surprised if they don't go to Blu-Ray, if not just for the size of the games. I give that post a 9.5. Sorry if you think im arguing with you I aint I just dont think this blu ray is that important to most people getting A console.   but I fully respect your opinion and may be proved wrong big time.

 

No need to appologize.  We are discussing the topic and presenting different opinions.  We aren't attacking each other.

I give that post a 9.4.

I also doubt that there are HUGE advantages for games. Mostly because its pointless for multiplatform games which will fit on a DVD one way or another. (If GTA4 fits on a DVD EVERYTHING fits on a DVD, that game was huge). But I think its a decent advantage esp. for PS3 only games where devs do not need to put work into compression etc. and this generation is still young so perhaps we will see a couple of games that are multi-DVD on 360.

And its cool for movies.

And its cool for movies.

If blu ray takes off how much will standalone br players be selling at?
kinda takes away that advantage imo.

Kyros said: I dont really buy into the blu ray thing. I also doubt that there are HUGE advantages for games. Mostly because its pointless for multiplatform games which will fit on a DVD one way or another. (If GTA4 fits on a DVD EVERYTHING fits on a DVD, that game was huge). But I think its a decent advantage esp. for PS3 only games where devs do not need to put work into compression etc. and this generation is still young so perhaps we will see a couple of games that are multi-DVD on 360. And its cool for movies.

 

With some people being able to take advantage of higher quality sound and some companies looking at texture streaming as a way to deliver better graphics, DVDs are much closer to their limit than they were at the beginning of the generation.  For the next generation, having a console that can't store more than 9.4GB on a disk will be a larger disadvantage.  It will be a competitve necessity for console games to have the higher capacity drives.

I give that post a 9.6.

Profcrab said: Kyros said: I dont really buy into the blu ray thing. I also doubt that there are HUGE advantages for games. Mostly because its pointless for multiplatform games which will fit on a DVD one way or another. (If GTA4 fits on a DVD EVERYTHING fits on a DVD, that game was huge). But I think its a decent advantage esp. for PS3 only games where devs do not need to put work into compression etc. and this generation is still young so perhaps we will see a couple of games that are multi-DVD on 360. And its cool for movies.   With some people being able to take advantage of higher quality sound and some companies looking at texture streaming as a way to deliver better graphics, DVDs are much closer to their limit than they were at the beginning of the generation.  For the next generation, having a console that can't store more than 9.4GB on a disk will be a larger disadvantage.  It will be a competitve necessity for console games to have the higher capacity drives. I give that post a 9.6.

Eeee-leven.

 

colonelstubbs said: Sony will not abandon the 10 year cycle. Especially after that phrase pretty much becoming their mantra

PS2 has the same "10 year cycle" 10 year cycle just means "we hope it will still sell when our replacement comes out."

Note how they talk about how PS1 had a 10 year cycle and PS2 will as well.

The NES had like a 20 year lifecycle as it wasn't unsupported by Nintendo until 2003.

 

You people swearing by Sony and their 10 year cycle, need to stop drinking the Kool Aid and wake-up and stop with all the delusions.

Remember you're talking about a company who's numerous execs have many gaffes between them including but not limited to:

"Rumble in controllers is last-gen tech." and then eventually implemented it.

"Multiple SKUs are confusing" and then introduced 3 in the same year.

and that's just the stuff off the top of my head that I can remember.

A previous poster nailed it. Consumers determine the life cycle of a product, not the corporate execs. If you really think 10 years from now when the next generation of systems are out, that the PS3 will be selling like the PS2 or even a fraction of the PS2 then you need to join us down here on planet earth.

While I'm not saying that it CAN NOT HAPPEN I seriously highly dobut it. Sure it will still be selling and games may be coming out for it. But I highly doubt it will be on par with the what the PS2 is doing now. If anything out of all the systems out now Wii has the best chance of still making a pretty penny 7-8 years from now. BUt that's just being obvious.

Think that Sony will try to do the same with ps3 as ps2 and maybe the ps4 will come in 2011.

Garcian Smith said: Prediction: The PS4 will debut Christmas 2011, while third-party support for the PS3 will drop off sharply after Q1 2009. From this news, it seems as though the PS4 will simply be a more powerful PS3, probably with a motion controller. The Xbox 720 will debut in the same year, and be both less powerful and cheaper, also with a Wiimote-like controller. Meanwhile, Nintendo will continue to ride the Wii wave and debut the Wii 2 with built-in MotionPlus technology and full Wii BC in 2012. Most next-gen multiplatform games will be Wii2/X720.

 

Please stop trolling. Why would PS3 support crash in Q1 2009? Because the developers will go to the Wii? In that case 360 support would drop even more. And how can you know on which platforms the next-gen multiplat games will be?