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@groucho, your entire logic is full of fallacy and it makes me question your entire story.

Sure, the bc on the Wii is a great feature and it did make me sell my gc early since I knew I could finish the gc games I wanted on the Wii, but to say that the bc is the only reason it has done well so far is just absurd.



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Fistly, "running out of steam" is beiing used in a wrong context.

Not mention that is not a surprise that the "Wii2" is being developed, a new hardware is developed soon after on is released.

And most Nintendo's IPs weren't released in this generation, not to mention that 3rd party suppot is increasing.

And for last, but not least important, Miyamoto is a very creative man, every generation he come up with great concepts.



Million said:
Hey don't shoot the messenger , I saw maxconsole's article , posted it and gave my opinion on it.

You take it like i'm insulting your mothers .

 

Million, I wasn't shooting your quotes done for anything than they already are, the only person doing that is yourself.

I was attacking your narrative at the very bottom of your OP. You seemed to twist even the title to not match the content of those quotes.



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Paul said:
The real question is, when will Sony fanboys spouting nonsense run out of steam?

Sony Fanboys don't run on steam, that's so last gen... TEH CELLZ is a power source all of it's own, which is why you don't plug the PS3 into a wall socket, you plug it into yourself if you feel a little tired.

 



superchunk said:
@groucho, your entire logic is full of fallacy and it makes me question your entire story.

Sure, the bc on the Wii is a great feature and it did make me sell my gc early since I knew I could finish the gc games I wanted on the Wii, but to say that the bc is the only reason it has done well so far is just absurd.

 

Since when is my own opinion a "fallacy"? No where in my post did I state that my opinion was that of the majority. I merely posted it as an issue to consider.  Also, perhaps you'd like to quote the part where I claimed the Wii's success was due to BC, rather than BC being the primary reason I purchased my own Wii, and that I knew many that had done the same.

I will suggest this, however.  Sales of used GC games seem to have skyrocketed with the success of the Wii.  Due to the Wii's numbers you might think "of course they have", but I would go as far to say that, as a gamer, the Wii's lineup has not yet come even remotely close to the value of the GC's lineup, and I believe that the Wii has no appealing gamer-oriented lineup on the horizon.  At the same time, I don't believe that the majority of Wii purchasers are necessarily Nintendo fans of the past, as I am -- so perhaps the lack of interesting "hardcore" titles doesn't matter to most.

You can discount my opinion as you like. There are certainly reasons to do so. But claiming my opinion is "fallacy" is... out of line.



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Oh no, no more accessories, you're right it is running out of steam. I mean everyone knows as soon as a console stop releases accessories it's over. I remember after the eyetoy was out the PS2 just ran out of steam. Everyone knows people only buy consoles for games.

The op should try reading articles he is going to post. Seems pretty clear you were trying to troll though. You even bolded the part where he says it is about accessories. Of course you then tried to single out the part where he says nothing is coming by highlighting it.



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Groucho said:
superchunk said:
@groucho, your entire logic is full of fallacy and it makes me question your entire story.

Sure, the bc on the Wii is a great feature and it did make me sell my gc early since I knew I could finish the gc games I wanted on the Wii, but to say that the bc is the only reason it has done well so far is just absurd.

 

Since when is my own opinion a "fallacy"? No where in my post did I state that my opinion was that of the majority. I merely posted it as an issue to consider.  Also, perhaps you'd like to quote the part where I claimed the Wii's success was due to BC, rather than BC being the primary reason I purchased my own Wii, and that I knew many that had done the same.

I will suggest this, however.  Sales of used GC games seem to have skyrocketed with the success of the Wii.  Due to the Wii's numbers you might think "of course they have", but I would go as far to say that, as a gamer, the Wii's lineup has not yet come even remotely close to the value of the GC's lineup, and I believe that the Wii has no appealing gamer-oriented lineup on the horizon.  At the same time, I don't believe that the majority of Wii purchasers are necessarily Nintendo fans of the past, as I am -- so perhaps the lack of interesting "hardcore" titles doesn't matter to most.

You can discount my opinion as you like. There are certainly reasons to do so. But claiming my opinion is "fallacy" is... out of line.

 

 An opinion is not a magical shield which protects you from criticism. They can be wrong, and in your case, your opinion that "the Wii has been losing styeam ever since it passed the GC's numbers" is certainly wrong.



Desroko said:
Groucho said:
superchunk said:
@groucho, your entire logic is full of fallacy and it makes me question your entire story.

Sure, the bc on the Wii is a great feature and it did make me sell my gc early since I knew I could finish the gc games I wanted on the Wii, but to say that the bc is the only reason it has done well so far is just absurd.

 

Since when is my own opinion a "fallacy"? No where in my post did I state that my opinion was that of the majority. I merely posted it as an issue to consider.  Also, perhaps you'd like to quote the part where I claimed the Wii's success was due to BC, rather than BC being the primary reason I purchased my own Wii, and that I knew many that had done the same.

I will suggest this, however.  Sales of used GC games seem to have skyrocketed with the success of the Wii.  Due to the Wii's numbers you might think "of course they have", but I would go as far to say that, as a gamer, the Wii's lineup has not yet come even remotely close to the value of the GC's lineup, and I believe that the Wii has no appealing gamer-oriented lineup on the horizon.  At the same time, I don't believe that the majority of Wii purchasers are necessarily Nintendo fans of the past, as I am -- so perhaps the lack of interesting "hardcore" titles doesn't matter to most.

You can discount my opinion as you like. There are certainly reasons to do so. But claiming my opinion is "fallacy" is... out of line.

 

 An opinion is not a magical shield which protects you from criticism. They can be wrong, and in your case, your opinion that "the Wii has been losing styeam ever since it passed the GC's numbers" is certainly wrong.

 

Also, if it was just a random opinion of yours, why did you suddenly decide to post such a completely irrelevant thing in this topic? That's off-topic posting, which is pretty much spamming.



Xeta said:
Desroko said:
Groucho said:
superchunk said:
@groucho, your entire logic is full of fallacy and it makes me question your entire story.

Sure, the bc on the Wii is a great feature and it did make me sell my gc early since I knew I could finish the gc games I wanted on the Wii, but to say that the bc is the only reason it has done well so far is just absurd.

 

Since when is my own opinion a "fallacy"? No where in my post did I state that my opinion was that of the majority. I merely posted it as an issue to consider. Also, perhaps you'd like to quote the part where I claimed the Wii's success was due to BC, rather than BC being the primary reason I purchased my own Wii, and that I knew many that had done the same.

I will suggest this, however. Sales of used GC games seem to have skyrocketed with the success of the Wii. Due to the Wii's numbers you might think "of course they have", but I would go as far to say that, as a gamer, the Wii's lineup has not yet come even remotely close to the value of the GC's lineup, and I believe that the Wii has no appealing gamer-oriented lineup on the horizon. At the same time, I don't believe that the majority of Wii purchasers are necessarily Nintendo fans of the past, as I am -- so perhaps the lack of interesting "hardcore" titles doesn't matter to most.

You can discount my opinion as you like. There are certainly reasons to do so. But claiming my opinion is "fallacy" is... out of line.

 

An opinion is not a magical shield which protects you from criticism. They can be wrong, and in your case, your opinion that "the Wii has been losing styeam ever since it passed the GC's numbers" is certainly wrong.

 

Also, if it was just a random opinion of yours, why did you suddenly decide to post such a completely irrelevant thing in this topic? That's off-topic posting, which is pretty much spamming.

 

I think the Wii's software library and future lineup are pretty relevant, so... not sure where you're coming from. Your post doesn't add anything to the discussion, so I find it pretty ironic, overall.

My coming to this thread is like trying to observe a book-burning rally with a small pocket bible/koran/whatever in my pocket, and then being searched and having the book thrown on the fire by a bunch of "True Wii-lievers".


It is my opinion that the software library of the Wii is its greatest downfall, and Nintendo's largest issue at this time. I believe that they can only throw so many gadgets at the consumer and continue their console's winning streak. Either they will need to crank out a Wii 2 by 2010, or convince a *lot* of 3rd party devs that the Wii is a viable platform, for new IPs, in the near future. The Wii *is* losing steam -- this isn't to say its doing badly. What used to be demand sell-outs, at retail, in no time flat are now approaching supply levels available. If this trend continues, the supply may well exceed demand in the near future. I am merely pointing out that Nintendo has an opening to revive the insane demand via a software route -- but they have not chosen to do so at this time, or its not apparent yet.

 

The recent loss of the gamecube controller (via lawsuit), and the relative lack of available BC games further this issue. That's all I'm trying to say -- and that does harm the Wii in its most sensitive area at this time -- available quality software. That issue seems pretty relevant to me.



Grampy said:
I find that statement less than surprising for two reasons, The Wii is already the most accessorized console ever. Who else has released anything like a balance board? Motion Plus was not planned originally because the technology didn't even exist but it alone makes the Wii an entirely different console.

And traditionally Nintendo always remains close mouthed so even if things were in development down the road they would deny it anyway.

 

it didn't exist?

they just put more accelerometers in it.

i seriously this it depends on the third party.

their core probably by now already bought a wii by now or are close to when they get the 50 million mark, thats why they are focusing in the casual, because almost all third party square capcom konami ubisoft EA activision blizzard are throwing their AAA title to the HD consoles.

if the wii managed to get to over 70%+ of market share its likely to happen what the ps2 did.

if not multiplatform still going to be mandatory.

nintendo may have zelda 45 mario 76 in the making but even fans get tired of the same...