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Forums - Sales Discussion - WHAT IF? - X360 sold as much as Wii next year? Comparing Profits....

So your idea is basically that the gross margins are currently positive, and that if yearly sales tripled, the gross profits would also triple, but the "other" costs would remain the same, thus there would be billions in profit? I'm not sure that idea really holds water, since not all of those costs would be fixed (distribution/shipping particularly).



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Fishy, you know me, I've been here for a while. I'm no 360 fan.

Look at who owns 360's.
Look what games are on 360.
Now look at the U.S. attach rate.

Now look at the Wii's
and take out 1.2-1.4 for WiiSports and WiiPlay or don't (either way my point is still valid).

Is that really just from being out a year earlier?

(Edit: 360 will never out sell the Wii for a whole year.)



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

DKII said:
So your idea is basically that the gross margins are currently positive, and that if yearly sales tripled, the gross profits would also triple, but the "other" costs would remain the same, thus there would be billions in profit? I'm not sure that idea really holds water, since not all of those costs would be fixed (distribution/shipping particularly).

 

Yes.  Gross Margins should be fairly similar with the increase in volume.  That is the Cost of Sales will not increase in a significant way if sales triple.

So if you sell 8.7 million consoles or 25 million consoles at the same price, then yes, the gross margins should be the same (or even less with economies of scale).

As for expenses - NO, they won't be the same.  Selling, admin and other expenses will increase - but it wont mirror the increase in sales.

In this calculation, I took that into account and added an additional 20% to 30% to take the increased volume into account.

But of course, I didn't assume that expenses will also triple, if sales triple.

More of inline what other companies have.

In this example - if Nintendo spends about $300 million in marketing on sales of $18 billion, then if msft sales are also the same, then it doesnt make sense that they would spend about $3.5 billion.  It may be more than $300 million if their products are more R&D intensive, but it would not be $3.5 billion - because that figure does not make sense.

 



This is a perfect time to complement this What If analysis, with the price cut that is most likely coming soon for the 360.



I award the OP the "biggest what if of the year" trophy. Enjoy :)



Nintendo = Innovation = Wii

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@OGY

I don't know if that is good or bad, in your eyes.. haha



the profits would be lower then wiis



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maybe, but maybe not... it depends on downloads and Live fees - since they carry a much higher margin than regular games and consoles.



WHAT IF....

my aunt had a package?

then she'd be my uncle

I've seen some interesting "scenarios" this isn't one of them.



Bumidan although the basic premise of the sales is flawed 25 million in a year is a big what if, I think your posts are some of the most logical and planned ones here. Hypothetical or not you do your research homework x2.