It's a hack of some kind. Just look at the Gamertag when he opens the home menu--"Vader HACK Test"

Stupid game now... friggen adding in jedis that's so stupid!

 Wow ur right!

yeah and that's the proof that Vader is one the disc and you have to pay for him even though you bought the game and have him already on your disc.

Yeah both will probaly be dlc for each console.

If by stupid you mean awesome.

I will be ok with paying for vader even if he's already on the disc, because the thought of not having him as a playable character hurts me more than it hurts my wallet.

Dear god just let me have Vader already 0.o

I'd care if the game wasn't worthless. A fighting game with no balance is trash.

Thanks for the worthless commentary on an awesome game :P  Yoda might be severely unbalanced, I will grant you, but I'd take Soul Calibur any day over DOA or Tekken.

I'm looking forward to Street Fighter IV, maybe that's more up your alley in terms of balance.  Soul Calibur and Soul Calibur II have provided me far more hours of entertainment with friends than almost any other game, outside of a few FPS's I play on PC.

I'd take the original SC over any other technical fighter made in the last decade.  SCII made the game about gimmicks, and that's all it's been since then.  A giant gimmick.  SCIV just cemented that by not only being gimmicky but picking the gimmicks over balance.

I think that's a bit unfair. When you say gimmicks, are you referring to the marketing of exclusive characters or are you referring to balance (or both, as in Yoda being gimmick + his stature being unbalanced).

Knightmare was indeed unbalanced in SCII (hey look, I can press one button over and over and still win!), but there were plenty of fun and balanced characters to play with.

It's not like the entire games are totally broken... there's a lot to enjoy for all kinds of players - those who enjoy technical fighters as well as those who enjoy the gimmick of playing as a jedi or other exclusive character.