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if its true then the sales of 360 will remain high in america



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rocketpig said:
greenmedic88 said:

And if the new 60GB SKU was $299, then all other SKUs would have to drop respectively or sales of the $279 Arcade would be completely cannibalized to the point that it would make almost no sense to keep offering them to consumers.

I'm sure most have already noticed that MS and Sony have essentially come up with virtually the SAME strategy; maintain current prices of their various SKUs while adding perceived value to consumers for their "core" SKU (currently the 40GB PS3 and 20GB 360) through additional HDD space while discontinuing the old/replaced SKUs.

Neither one should be particularly eager to drop price at this point, less the other follow suit, effectively canceling out the supposed advantage and losing more money on each console sold.

Not particularly promising to those holding their breath for another string of price cuts all around, but there is still a remote chance it could happen as the holidays approach.

More likely, holiday bundles will be offered instead once again, from both companies at current prices.

MS has a new chipset coming soon. It's likely that they're planning to use that cost reduction to get the price down in America.

They badly need a price cut in the US. It's obvious that the demand is there, they've just dried up the market by only offering one $50 price cut in nearly three years. Get the price down and sales will be way up again.

 

The Jasper MoBo may already be in parts bins, meaning consumers could start seeing them on retail shelves when the 60GB SKUs become available as soon as August.

It won't be an immediate, complete transition though. Recall how Zephyr MoBo units were being used well after the Falcon was introduced until stock had been depleted.

Regardless of whether the Jasper models are cheaper to manufacture, MS is not going to instantly pass the savings along to consumers until it benefits them by resulting in a greater number of sales to offset the price drop and maximize per unit profits.

But I agree 100% that the 360 needs price cuts across the entire hardware line up MS wants to see improved retail sales. I'm curious to see how an Arcade SKU at $229 would move personally.

 



brute said:
if its true then the sales of 360 will remain high in america

More likely they'll just remain on rough parity with the current minor bump following the inventory clearing sale on the SKU most consumers have been buying (20GB Pro).

Announcing a $50 price drop on the 60GB SKU immediately after clearing 20GB stock will not result in a subsequent surge of sales any more than Sony's transition from the 60GB to 80GB SKU did by dropping the price of 80GB to match following the inventory clearing.

If anything, an immediate drop would probably upset those who had bought "bargain" 20GB SKUs, only to see the improved models drop to the same price.

Although it would be a better deal for consumers (more HDD space at the same cost), a 60GB SKU would not move significantly more units than the 20GB SKU at the same price unless not all consumers can find the discounted models.

 



Not official yet, still $349

60GB on sale for 349.

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=75060



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

If Microsoft makes it to cheap then it may be perceived as just that, by the general public that is.



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No. Because most consumers are looking at the game library first.

The questionable quality of the hardware is already common knowledge. We've already seen how many consumers (primary core demographic) are all too willing to put up with hardware problems in the interest of playing the games.



superchunk said:
Euphoria14 said:

^You are right. People think MSRP always means you charge what you wish, but this is not always the case.

Items such as Ipods, *Some* computers, *Some* Televisions, Gaming consoles, etc... have "contracted prices". This is also the reasoning why employees never see discounts on these products. Retailers sell these for what they paid pretty much, their money comes from the games and accessories.

I learned this at Bestbuy.

Very true. As someone who worked for over 10years as a commissioned salesperson at Sears and then Circuit City, I can tell you that there are many items that the retailer has absolutely no choice when it comes to its price.

@CC as an example, Bose and Polk Audio never get any type of sale or discount unless it is from the manufacturer. This is also how Apple works and I'm sure it is how all of the console manufacturers work.

If you still are unsure how this works, next time you see a store wide event, like 10% off everything, from any retailer, read the fine print. You will see a list of products the sale does not apply to, those are the products they are not allowed to adjust the price on.

while that's no doubt the case (I've never worked in retail so I'm taking your word for it), I can't imagine any company  going after Target for selling their product under price. It's too much of a potential sales loss if the company retaliates. (picture if Walmart decided to stop selling Xbox 360 consoles.) I'm not saying that's the case because I really don't know, but I can't imagine wth Microsoft would care if Target wants to take a loss on selling the consoles. MS already has their dough.

 



Not trying to be a fanboy. Of course, it's hard when you own the best console eve... dang it

TheRealMafoo said:
Skeeuk said:
well the official price is what microsoft says it is, but retailers can knock down the price as they see fit.

 

Actually, they can't. the price is the price. It's set by the MS, Sony, and Nintendo. Consoles are one of those things that are fixed price (might be the only thing). That's why bundles are so popular.

Anyway, if it's $299, this means Sony better drop there price, or they are in big trouble in the US.

 

No product in the US can be price fixed by the manufacturer... this is illegal.  However, consoles are likely similar to printers... very little margin for the retailer, so a $50 discount by any retailer would probably mean selling at or below cost.

 



crumas2 said:

 

No product in the US can be price fixed by the manufacturer... this is illegal.  However, consoles are likely similar to printers... very little margin for the retailer, so a $50 discount by any retailer would probably mean selling at or below cost.

 

A company that doesn't respect the manufacturers pricing guidelines will find themselves either paying more for product or cut off entirely from purchasing.



It must sell the 60GB at 299$. Just need to do it once the 20GB stock is gone. That would boost 360 sales for over a longer period. People are used to 299$ pricing so 349$ would just be suicide