This thread is bullshit, Skeeuk why do you keep posting these quotes from people that are paid by Sony? Its just PR talk and doesn't mean anything at all.

Their comment about how 2.40 came out and now look how fast their working because we're already up to 2.42 is just such a twatty thing for Sony to say, considering 2.41 was just a fix to make sure that 2.40 didn't break anymore PS3s.

Seriously. Its mind numingly boring these threads and just clutters the front page.

X360 depends mostly on Live... I don't think they are giving up on it. That's just wishful thinking.

I can't belive you have so much faith in microsoft, take this above statement that you made, and apply it to the friggin 360 you support so dearly, they're CURRENT MODELS still have 8%> failure rate!!!! Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!

@Rocket, I know I know, I was taking my pot-shot at Microsoft for they're BS strategies with they're operating systems :P They could have taken they're heaps of money and offered us the future we only saw in movies, but they seem to put just enough to get people to buy it, not spades and then some. I just think, if people keep comming to they're service day by day, and paying no less! That they have little reason to flesh out they're offerings further. I'm just being harsh on MS :P

XNA development software i think pretty much puts Xbox live ahead unless PSN counters it.

I would have to disagree. If you think about what the PSN was like even just 8 months ago and what it is today... And they show no signs of letting up the manic pace. Microsoft is not really adding anything revolutionary even with this update that ups the ante that much. I not be very surprised if Live has nothing that is better than the PSN within a year.

Also, as for your comment on M$ being a SW company, they haven't shown anything that would make me believe they are better than Sony at SW programming. (XMB vs. Dashboard? no contest. Also, and I can tell you this from long, hard experience: Windows Vista sucks.)

ummm... I fail to see how this demonstrates that XBL is better than PSN: So I can pay to play hundreds of crappy games designed by lazy teenagers while they're not watching TV. Woohoo. I already had hundreds of crappy games to choose from on XBLA.

So far all sony has done is..."Hmm, what features can we copy from xbox live?" Once they introduce 1 feature that is not available on xbox live, you let me know...and I will point out 10 XBL features that are not on PSN.

It's easy to play catch-up. It's a lot harder to push forward into unknown territory.

And you don't think XBL Community is a huge leap forward for the service? I sure do. Even if 99% of the games suck (and they surely will), there are going to be gems along with the shit. And those gems are going to be very cheap or free.

Show me another service opening up their standards and hardware platform to the public like that.

And as much as you may hate Vista, show me a piece of Sony software before PSN that didn't suck balls. Every piece of software I used by the company was a steaming pile of shit.

But how many of those "features" were ripped off PC gaming, and more precisely services like Steam? :P "Ripping" off a standard feature isn't really ripping off at all, it should have been there to start with :P Sony's just getting to the same point MS is at in a much smaller time frame. I think that's what he's trying to say.

So you can buy Little Big Planet to play hundreds of crappy (and probably sexually populated) levels made by lazy teenagers while they're not watching TV?

How about flash games? It's not like there are any good ones, right?