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Let me get this straight...

You HAVE to play this game with waggle? You can't use Joysticks? LAME!

I've been a big hater of any Wii games that use the motion detection to 'steer' and that just sucks.(bundle Sonic, Excite Truck, NFS: Carbon in this category YUK)

I've also been a big hater on Lair all along as well, and I still think this game is going to fail sales wise... the scale this game is raved on about means that it should be a million seller in every region at least right? I don't even think it'll hit 1 million world wide, and if it does, then it will only just make it.

The graphics look PHENOMINAL, absolutely crazily amazing, but all of the vids and screenshots are hand picked... i don't know how repetative the graphics and textures will become, and there is a SHITload of black. The cut scenes are something to be wow'ed upon as well.

Unfortunately I think that the gameplay looks like CRAPBURGERS and I can't imagine myself playing past the first few levels... notice in most of the footage they only show VERY short gameplay grabs and mainly cutscenes?

I'll continue to dislike Lair until it proves me differently and nothing has done that so far, it's pretty but that's all it's got.



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Celb said:
all the net vids of lair are crap.

Same vid on my psn look much better then the best version online.

Remember Lair is designed for a 1080p tv, dont expect great visuals on anything less especially old pc screens or boc tvs.

All news sites who played it are saying great mind blowing epic visuals why you ask, well they are playing on a $3000 1080p bravias.

 Oh I'm sorry...I forgot game developers can only impress us if we're watching trailers on $3000 1080p Bravias.  Screw me and my "old pc screen."



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Still looks repetitive.



OriGin said:
Let me get this straight...

You HAVE to play this game with waggle? You can't use Joysticks? LAME!

I've been a big hater of any Wii games that use the motion detection to 'steer' and that just sucks.(bundle Sonic, Excite Truck, NFS: Carbon in this category YUK)

I've also been a big hater on Lair all along as well, and I still think this game is going to fail sales wise... the scale this game is raved on about means that it should be a million seller in every region at least right? I don't even think it'll hit 1 million world wide, and if it does, then it will only just make it.

The graphics look PHENOMINAL, absolutely crazily amazing, but all of the vids and screenshots are hand picked... i don't know how repetative the graphics and textures will become, and there is a SHITload of black. The cut scenes are something to be wow'ed upon as well.

Unfortunately I think that the gameplay looks like CRAPBURGERS and I can't imagine myself playing past the first few levels... notice in most of the footage they only show VERY short gameplay grabs and mainly cutscenes?

I'll continue to dislike Lair until it proves me differently and nothing has done that so far, it's pretty but that's all it's got.

I agree with your "crapburgers" comment. That word pretty much sums up my thoughts on what I've seen of Lair. I even WANT to like it, since Factor 5 made some games I liked on the N64 and GC. Seems like they got "Rarewared" though and ran out of talent after working for Nintendo.

Edit: yeah I just watched a couple of the vids. I feel kinda bad for those who think Lair will boost PS3 sales significantly.



I don't want to get negative about this game. As I said, I won't be playing it - so it doesn't bother me. But even if this came out for the Wii (even with the same gfx), I couldn't imagine myself buying it.

Some gamers out there are full-on graphics fans. Many of these fans bought a PS3 for graphics, and if nothing else - this game should deliver some very nice graphics (and sound). So it should make these gamers happy.

And that's a good thing - gamers who like Wii/Ninty games get their fill, and gamers who need the fanciest gfx get theirs as well. Something for everyone! 



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shams said:

I don't want to get negative about this game. As I said, I won't be playing it - so it doesn't bother me. But even if this came out for the Wii (even with the same gfx), I couldn't imagine myself buying it.

Some gamers out there are full-on graphics fans. Many of these fans bought a PS3 for graphics, and if nothing else - this game should deliver some very nice graphics (and sound). So it should make these gamers happy.

And that's a good thing - gamers who like Wii/Ninty games get their fill, and gamers who need the fanciest gfx get theirs as well. Something for everyone! 


I'll admit I am a graphics/sound whore. But at the same time I want good gameplay. I haven't watched the linked videos yet so keep that in mind when reading my post. Although it's possible I've seen them before. Lair looks fantastic at times but also not so impressive at times. I mean, It almost always looks visually pleasing but does look as if it could be repetitive. But like someone else already said, you don't always get the whole picture in trailers.

Addressing someone elses comment on MP. I think it would be awesome if they could find a way to have MP without it also becoming dull. I mean, how many combat variations can you have riding a dragon? They could figure out a way to make it like warhawk where there is air and ground combat going on and balance it out somehow. I don't know, I guess thats why I don't develop games, I just play em'.



BenKenobi88 said:
Celb said:
all the net vids of lair are crap.

Same vid on my psn look much better then the best version online.

Remember Lair is designed for a 1080p tv, dont expect great visuals on anything less especially old pc screens or boc tvs.

All news sites who played it are saying great mind blowing epic visuals why you ask, well they are playing on a $3000 1080p bravias.

Oh I'm sorry...I forgot game developers can only impress us if we're watching trailers on $3000 1080p Bravias. Screw me and my "old pc screen."


Reality is hard to understand or what.

 Its a game designed for top end hardware thats just how it is.

 



OriGin said:
there is a SHITload of black. The cut scenes are something to be wow'ed upon as well.

 This wasn't a problem with Gears, it still looked amazing even though there was a lot of darkness and black. Still think this is going to be the best looking console game outside of Gears when it hits.

I don't know if there is no option to turn off motion controls, no idea, but it would be better to have options.



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ckmlb said:
OriGin said:
there is a SHITload of black. The cut scenes are something to be wow'ed upon as well.

This wasn't a problem with Gears, it still looked amazing even though there was a lot of darkness and black. Still think this is going to be the best looking console game outside of Gears when it hits.

I don't know if there is no option to turn off motion controls, no idea, but it would be better to have options.


 I'm not sure if that will be the case. In one of the interviews they said that with the motion control, it opens up some more buttons on the controller so flight may only be with motion control. The ground combat, however, they said that it will be controlled with the analog sticks and by these new videos, they revealed that motion control will do those big attacks like the dragon swinging its arm and taking out lots of guys. 



Teh dragons look great, sound is great.