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Astrodust said:
ckmlb said:
FishyJoe said:
ckmlb said:
FishyJoe said:
ckmlb said:
Don't expect Zelda to have legs as the people who wanted it (most of 'em) already got it on release.

Riiiigghhht, because Nintendo games sell quickly then fall off the charts. Nevermind that 13 of the top 20 games in Japan have been on the charts longer than 10 weeks and all of those 13 games are for Nintendo platforms.

Really, do you even think about your statements before you post them?


Casual games stay on the list forever not Zelda. I didn't say is not gonna sell good, it already is, I am saying it won't have long legs.

Do you ever think before attacking me? I'll asnwer for you: no.


I think your definition of long legs is ridiculous. By your standard, almost no game could ever have long legs.


My definition of long legs is Wii Sports/Play and Nintendogs. A few weeks in the top 20 is good legs but not long legs. I expect Zelda to sell a million but not much more in Japan tops.


Ckmlb you expect Zelda to sell a million but you don't see that as having good legs. ?? If this were a Sony game that could move a million units you would sing a different tune. The fact is, Nintendo knows how to sell software, and sell lots. If any games out there have legs, they are Nintendo ones. Nintendo have so many 500,000+ sellers in the last year it's stupid.


 A million seller is a million seller. Doesn't matter if it's Nintendo or Sony, but that's not long legs like Wii Sportrs, Wii Play and Nintendogs that keep selling forever. A million seller is a hit, but not a massive one (saleswise).



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In fact PS3 numbers for last week in Famitsu-Media Create were 9440 so it hasnt dropped but went up some 200 units .

I expected a bit more about Zelda on the DS but its a very impressive number nonetheless .And the DS gets a good boost because of this game .



Diomedes1976 said:
In fact PS3 numbers for last week in Famitsu-Media Create were 9440 so it hasnt dropped but went up some 200 units .

I expected a bit more about Zelda on the DS but its a very impressive number nonetheless .And the DS gets a good boost because of this game .

actually 9440 was media create numbers, we don't have the media create numbers for this week yet so you can't say if it went up or not.  The last 3 weeks y-koron has no said what the numbers are exactly for PS3 on famitsu, just that they haven't changed much.



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Y-Koron didnt say anything but another post came with the exact numbers provided by Famitsu .I dont know ,I just assumed those were legit .Cvgchartz actually adds some sales due to some other territories as Taiwan ,Hong Kong ,Corea etc thats the official explanation why their numbers are always a bit higher that Media Create and Famitsu ones .If the Media Create and Famitsu ones are similar or slighty better (200) compared to last week the same would apply to this site numbers .At least that was I was thinking .



Isn't the main reason DS numbers are up so much also the new colors?



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who cares if numbers are 9k or 10k or 11k. They are insignifcant and show the same thing. Honestly. I don´ get why people complain about that.



Exactly, there is no such thing as real numbers. NPD, Famitsu, M-Create, Chart Track are all estimates based on polling. Anyone who thinks +/- 200 makes a difference is a fool because the margin of error is greater than that.



Im wondering where MC numbers will be for X360 - 4k or 5k? Famitsu seems too low, but that's just me. I had the X360 at 5k. The interesting thing will be how well the platinum titles sell this week. The 360 should have a 30k+ software week.

As for PH - I believe, between it being a DS title, and a good-selling Zelda title to easily pass 1m. DS games never have massive 2nd week drops as much as console games. Yoshi's Island is 750k+ (give or take), and launched just under 300k. I'd expect at a minimum, similar legs.

Pretty horrendous for Trusty Bell, but Blue Dragon had a 75% drop its first week, then ended up staying @ that level for the next 3 weeks (22k/wk).

Outside of that, most of my pred numbers seem close, but I had 200k for DS, therefore a bit higher.



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ckmlb said:
Don't expect Zelda to have legs as the people who wanted it (most of 'em) already got it on release.

I think you are wrong. I think it will be the next NSMB - a "pure game", that will keep selling strongly on the DS week after week. Expect it to be in the top 20 after a year.

Word of mouth, and showing the game to others will continue to push sales. People originally perceive the game as a hardcore game, and over time they will discover that its a fun, casual game that anyone can play. If anything, it could be even more casual - being a stylus only game (rather than an action/button game - NSMB).

Look at the sales of say, Super Mario Sunshine - vrs sales of NSMB. Now apply the same ratio to Twilight vrs Phantom.

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Anyway, we'll see. At the very least, I expect it to be a strong seller this Xmas. 

 



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ckmlb said:

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A million seller is a million seller. Doesn't matter if it's Nintendo or Sony, but that's not long legs like Wii Sportrs, Wii Play and Nintendogs that keep selling forever. A million seller is a hit, but not a massive one (saleswise).

I don't agree at all. You should take context into account, and maybe even development time.

You are saying that MH1 & MH2 are "hits", but not massive hits. I disagree - they are massive hits, esp. being on the PSP.

The phrase "massive hit" should apply to relative sales figures (compared to the rest of the platform software sales). Its this relatively that determines "how" massive it is...

NSMB is a massive hit - for the DS.

MH2 is a massive hit - for the PSP.

Wii Sports is a massive hit - for the Wii.

(it doesn't matter that they actually sold quite differing amounts)

 



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