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360 fan boys can say what ever they want to feel good about their console, but the facts are the facts. As the 360 had a better lineup for last year's holiday season, it is SONY who has the best one for this year.

No matter what they say, unless they back it up with a game line up there is no point trying to deny mr. Hirai's comments.



End of Year prediction:

wii: 37 m

360: 24 m

PS3: 20 m

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HappySqurriel said:
DTG said:

Sony is more about art and intellectual stimulation while Nintendo is about shallow entertainment and the pursuit of "fun". They're different markets though for me personally Sony is superior.

 

Art in your shallow definition of what 'Art' is ...

 

It should be interesting what kind of games made by Sony does he consider art...



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But i bet all of those games will be better and funier than wii fit. And that is all that matters (unless you work for nintendo).

So you and other five million of persons can sit in your wii board and watch the 2 or 3 million of people have lots of fun with real AAA games.



End of Year prediction:

wii: 37 m

360: 24 m

PS3: 20 m

Pk9394 said:
I bet not one of those exclusive can beat Wii Fit's sale number. Sony can have the most appealing list to core gamers or even its all AAA quality but at the end of the day what counts the most is who bring home the most $$$. How many game on that list can actually break 3 million mark?? while a lot of nintendo's game break 5 millions mark without a sweat.

But i bet all of those games will be better and funier than wii fit. And that is all that matters (unless you work for nintendo). So you and other five million of persons can sit in your wii board and watch the 2 or 3 million of people have lots of fun with real AAA games.

End of Year prediction:

wii: 37 m

360: 24 m

PS3: 20 m

Bodhesatva said:

In terms of variety and "hardcore" gamer appeal, Sony wins, though. Over Microsoft obviously (their first party is Halo and Gears of War), but over Nintendo too, I think.

No.

I don't know how you measure "'hardcore' gamer appeal" but I think Nintendo has the biggest variety of internal games by genre. 

Action/Adventure, ARPG, SRPG, JRPG, 3D-platformer, Racing, Racing Sim, Fighting, 2D-platformer, puzzle, Strategy, Shooters, etc.

Nintendo has hardcore franchises that covers virtually any and every genre.  Some people may really love Sony and that's fine, but no other 1st party developer has the talent and skill of Nintendo's in-house development teams - nor as consistent an output of undisputeable quality.



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quimicomortal said:
Pk9394 said:
I bet not one of those exclusive can beat Wii Fit's sale number. Sony can have the most appealing list to core gamers or even its all AAA quality but at the end of the day what counts the most is who bring home the most $$$. How many game on that list can actually break 3 million mark?? while a lot of nintendo's game break 5 millions mark without a sweat.

 

But i bet all of those games will be better and funier than wii fit. And that is all that matters (unless you work for nintendo). So you and other five million of persons can sit in your wii board and watch the 2 or 3 million of people have lots of fun with real AAA games.

 

I could not have said it better myself.



Kenology said:
Bodhesatva said:

In terms of variety and "hardcore" gamer appeal, Sony wins, though. Over Microsoft obviously (their first party is Halo and Gears of War), but over Nintendo too, I think.

No.

I don't know how you measure "'hardcore' gamer appeal" but I think Nintendo has the biggest variety of internal games by genre. 

Action/Adventure, ARPG, SRPG, JRPG, 3D-platformer, Racing, Racing Sim, Fighting, 2D-platformer, puzzle, Strategy, Shooters, etc.

Nintendo has hardcore franchises that covers virtually any and every genre.  Some people may really love Sony and that's fine, but no other 1st party developer has the talent and skill of Nintendo's in-house development teams - nor as consistent an output of undisputeable quality.

why not mention what those games are not just write the genres, and stuff that came out 10 years ago does not count.

 

 



Kenology said:
Bodhesatva said:

In terms of variety and "hardcore" gamer appeal, Sony wins, though. Over Microsoft obviously (their first party is Halo and Gears of War), but over Nintendo too, I think.

No.

I don't know how you measure "'hardcore' gamer appeal" but I think Nintendo has the biggest variety of internal games by genre.

Action/Adventure, ARPG, SRPG, JRPG, 3D-platformer, Racing, Racing Sim, Fighting, 2D-platformer, puzzle, Strategy, Shooters, etc.

Nintendo has hardcore franchises that covers virtually any and every genre. Some people may really love Sony and that's fine, but no other 1st party developer has the talent and skill of Nintendo's in-house development teams - nor as consistent an output of undisputeable quality.

 

Last time I checked Nintendo dumped out many sub-par titles like Mario Kart 64, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Party 8, Battalion Wars and Kirby Air Ride to name a few. Nintendo is hardly immune from producing mediocre games. Besides, Sony has more than 80 game franchises including God of War, Shadow of the Colossus, Patapon, Loco Roco and Syphon Filter. Now-a-days Nintendo seems content with producing little more than sequels and casual games, I don't know many core gamers that are satisfied with that.



Kenology said:
Bodhesatva said:

In terms of variety and "hardcore" gamer appeal, Sony wins, though. Over Microsoft obviously (their first party is Halo and Gears of War), but over Nintendo too, I think.

No.

I don't know how you measure "'hardcore' gamer appeal" but I think Nintendo has the biggest variety of internal games by genre. 

Action/Adventure, ARPG, SRPG, JRPG, 3D-platformer, Racing, Racing Sim, Fighting, 2D-platformer, puzzle, Strategy, Shooters, etc.

Nintendo has hardcore franchises that covers virtually any and every genre.  Some people may really love Sony and that's fine, but no other 1st party developer has the talent and skill of Nintendo's in-house development teams - nor as consistent an output of undisputeable quality.

 

Nintendo has a racing sim?  Like Gran Turismo or Forza?  What?

And I can't think of any shooters outside of Metroid (and I would consider it more of an adventure title than a shooter).

And they have one Super Mario per gen, but not much else in terms of 3d platformers since Rare left.  Last gen they had SMS, SF Adventures, and Wario World, one of which was developed by the now absent Rare.  In comparison, last gen Sony had at least 12 platformers between it's various 1st and 2nd party studios.  They had Jak 1-3, Ratchet & Clank 1-4, Sly Cooper 1-3, and a few Ape Escape games.  Granted, SMS was superior than all of these 1 on 1, but they were all great games in their own right, and combined created a great line up of games to play.

It really annoys me how people tend to lowball Sony's first party.  Nintendo's is awesome, we know that, but Sony's is excellent as well.



quimicomortal said:
360 fan boys can say what ever they want to feel good about their console, but the facts are the facts. As the 360 had a better lineup for last year's holiday season, it is SONY who has the best one for this year.

No matter what they say, unless they back it up with a game line up there is no point trying to deny mr. Hirai's comments.

And you said you were talking about facts. Show me these facts, since I haven't seen any from $ony.

 



GOTY Contestants this year: Dead Space 2, Dark Souls, Tales of Graces f. Everything else can suck it.