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Legend11 said:
Celb said:
Legend11 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Legend11 said:
Celb said:
Legend11 said:
Umm the 360 is outselling the PS3 Worldwide...

why dont you prove it.

The 360 is selling a lot more than the PS3 in North America (this site's numbers and NPD's numbers prove that). Also the 360 is outselling the PS3 in Europe as a whole because of the lead it has in the UK. And although the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Japan it simply isn't doing well enough to make up for North America and Europe. The simple fact is the gap is widening every month between the 360 and the PS3 and developers can't help but notice it.

 


Look I deal in the present and presently the 360 is outselling the PS3 worldwide and has a much larger installed base. Maybe the PS3 might suddenly start taking off (umm lets see people said that would happen when Motorstorm came out and it didn't happen) but who knows I guess it could happen at sometime in the future.


thesource - At the moment, the breakdown for sales in 2007 is.. Wii - 54.5% PS3 - 23.2% 360 - 22.2%

So PS3 has slightly out sold the 360 this year, so stfu maybe.

and Motorstorm slightly raised sales, but what all of you fail to see is Motorstorm "maintained sales" at around 130k for the month it came out.


You do realize that the PS3 launched in Europe this year right? The 360 is outselling the PS3 Worldwide CURRENTLY dispite the percentages you posted. Don't believe me? WELL LOOK IT UP. Anyways if you don't want to accept reality that's your problem just don't shoot the messenger.


Here, I'll help out Legend:

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=X360&reg3=All&weekly=1 



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IllegalPaladin said:
Celb said:
Legend11 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Legend11 said:
Celb said:
Legend11 said:
Umm the 360 is outselling the PS3 Worldwide...

why dont you prove it.

The 360 is selling a lot more than the PS3 in North America (this site's numbers and NPD's numbers prove that). Also the 360 is outselling the PS3 in Europe as a whole because of the lead it has in the UK. And although the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Japan it simply isn't doing well enough to make up for North America and Europe. The simple fact is the gap is widening every month between the 360 and the PS3 and developers can't help but notice it.

 


Look I deal in the present and presently the 360 is outselling the PS3 worldwide and has a much larger installed base. Maybe the PS3 might suddenly start taking off (umm lets see people said that would happen when Motorstorm came out and it didn't happen) but who knows I guess it could happen at sometime in the future.


thesource - At the moment, the breakdown for sales in 2007 is.. Wii - 54.5% PS3 - 23.2% 360 - 22.2%

So PS3 has slightly out sold the 360 this year, so stfu maybe.

and Motorstorm slightly raised sales, but what all of you fail to see is Motorstorm "maintained sales" at around 130k for the month it came out.


 What's interesting is that if you look at VGchartz's. . . charts. . . and compare the PS3 and 360 with launches alligned, they're close right now. The 360 was better in the begining, then the PS3 had an area above the 360, but they look about even now. 


Seriously why bother aligning launches?  We deal in the hear and now not in some alternate reality where the PS3 and Xbox 360 launched at the same time.  The reality is that the PS3 is in third place and falling further behind and is having truly dismal software sales on top of all that.



lol, okay. Now the question is will that hear and now stance change if the market does? Sure, everybody acknowledges the 360's year headstart, but that seems to be used as an excuse for you since their sales look to be sort of close. Even looking at weekly sales, while the 360 looks to have an overall lead against the PS3 (when comparing everything after the PS3's launch of course), both the 360 and PS3 have huge spikes in sales that the other doesn't have at certain times.



Things could change but until there's a significant price drop for the PS3 I can't see things really changing.



Removing the launches for the respective consoles, the 360 is generally outselling the PS3 world wide. However, they're both selling very poorly although it seems as though PS3 sales are slowing even faster than 360 sales.

Including a launch and a near post-launch in the comparison is sort of silly, because the sales are artificially high when the unit is introduced to a market. Once the sales level off, you get to see how they compare.

I have a Wii now but want a 360.  Honestly, the whole failure thing has be disguisted, and as much as I lothe things Sony has done with the PS3 and their general dishonesty with the customer, consistent overpromising and under delivering, I would buy a PS3 instead of a 360 if it had as many games that I wanted.  By the time the 360's failure rate is reasonable (ie: 3-5% or better -- that would probably still be the worst of this generation), the PS3 may be priced more reasonably and may win my interest.

It is unbelievable how Microsoft is dropping the ball this generation.  They have been gift-wrapped an opportunity to dominate the high end of the console business and they're just losing it.  Their pricing isn't even that much above Nintendo's -- you can get a core system for $50 more than a Wii, and yet people are paying a premium of more than $50 to buy a Wii online since they're scarce.



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Price drop confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

$299.99- 20GB MODEL!!!

$399.99-60GB MODEL

$499.99-80GB MODEL TO BE RELEASED NOV 7 IN THE UK/US

(If this happens the ps3 will win the conole war...)



 

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leo-j said:
Price drop confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

$299.99- 20GB MODEL!!!

$399.99-60GB MODEL

$499.99-80GB MODEL TO BE RELEASED NOV 7 IN THE UK/US

(If this happens the ps3 will win the conole war...)

 Eh, I think there would have to be more of a difference between an 80gig PS3 and a 60gig PS3 apart from the price because of the PS3's hard drive upgradability. Not to mention that for that $100, you can simply get a 100+ gig HDD. 



leo-j said:
Price drop confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

$299.99- 20GB MODEL!!!

$399.99-60GB MODEL

$499.99-80GB MODEL TO BE RELEASED NOV 7 IN THE UK/US

(If this happens the ps3 will win the conole war...)

And bankrupt Sony. Corvette could own the automobile market too -- all they have to do is drop the price to 500 dollars per car! 



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Legend11 said:
IllegalPaladin said:
Celb said:
Legend11 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Legend11 said:
Celb said:
Legend11 said:
Umm the 360 is outselling the PS3 Worldwide...

why dont you prove it.

The 360 is selling a lot more than the PS3 in North America (this site's numbers and NPD's numbers prove that). Also the 360 is outselling the PS3 in Europe as a whole because of the lead it has in the UK. And although the PS3 is outselling the 360 in Japan it simply isn't doing well enough to make up for North America and Europe. The simple fact is the gap is widening every month between the 360 and the PS3 and developers can't help but notice it.

 


Look I deal in the present and presently the 360 is outselling the PS3 worldwide and has a much larger installed base. Maybe the PS3 might suddenly start taking off (umm lets see people said that would happen when Motorstorm came out and it didn't happen) but who knows I guess it could happen at sometime in the future.


thesource - At the moment, the breakdown for sales in 2007 is.. Wii - 54.5% PS3 - 23.2% 360 - 22.2%

So PS3 has slightly out sold the 360 this year, so stfu maybe.

and Motorstorm slightly raised sales, but what all of you fail to see is Motorstorm "maintained sales" at around 130k for the month it came out.


What's interesting is that if you look at VGchartz's. . . charts. . . and compare the PS3 and 360 with launches alligned, they're close right now. The 360 was better in the begining, then the PS3 had an area above the 360, but they look about even now.


Seriously why bother aligning launches? We deal in the hear and now not in some alternate reality where the PS3 and Xbox 360 launched at the same time. The reality is that the PS3 is in third place and falling further behind and is having truly dismal software sales on top of all that.


 Yep, Legend is correct. Here is reality:

1) The Xbox360 has a 6.5 million unit lead on the PS3.

2) The 360 is selling better than the PS3 right now, so that lead is growing.

3) The Xbox360 has a much better attach rate than the PS3 does.

In short, the 360 has more consoles sold, is selling new systems at a higher sales rate, has more games sold, and is selling the games at a much higher sales rate. The PS3 is being thoroughly trounced by the 360 in every relevant category. You can believe that long term, these trends won't hold up -- that's fine, although I believe otherwise, for my own reasons. Just remember that in the present, the 360 is decisively beating the PS3. 



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leo-j said:
Price drop confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

$299.99- 20GB MODEL!!!

$399.99-60GB MODEL

$499.99-80GB MODEL TO BE RELEASED NOV 7 IN THE UK/US

(If this happens the ps3 will win the conole war...)

If the 360 and PS3 were the same price and there were no reliability questions with the 360, I'd buy a 360 tonight.  It has more games that I want (the PS3 doesn't have anything that interests me yet except VF5).  The only thing holding me back from getting a 360 is the reliability question.  I suspect that by the time this is addressed, the console will be cheaper or there will be good rebates again.