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highwaystar101 said:
Religion should be kept far away from politics. Imn fact if a political leader is religious they have lost my vote straight away. I think all countries should be athiest too, no state religion whatsoever, think of the problems that will solve.

 

*looks at russia and china*  

 

you were joking, yeah?



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MrBubbles said:
highwaystar101 said:
Religion should be kept far away from politics. Imn fact if a political leader is religious they have lost my vote straight away. I think all countries should be athiest too, no state religion whatsoever, think of the problems that will solve.

 

*looks at russia and china*  

 

you were joking, yeah?

 

What about them?






Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
wow this will surely lower his reputation in Europe and among true American liberals.
Hopefully he just said it to appease the US public, I still believe and hope that he thinks lowly of the US public and its God delusion.


There are few candidates that have been more religious then O'Bama. That's why they say he may win a lot of Bush's religious right block.

Well that and John McCain called the religious right a bunch of "Right Wing Wackos."

Shouldn't hurt him though. O'bama V McCain is basically going to be Kennedy V Nixon.

Should be interesting if his reputation turns out the same.

Kennedy was really the most overrated president in the history of the US... well him or Regean.  Communism likely would of fell down no matter who was president.

 

No, Reagan was the greatest president of the 20th century. He was flipping sweet. lol

Gosh, don't pull the FDR card!



Snesboy said:
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
wow this will surely lower his reputation in Europe and among true American liberals.
Hopefully he just said it to appease the US public, I still believe and hope that he thinks lowly of the US public and its God delusion.


There are few candidates that have been more religious then O'Bama. That's why they say he may win a lot of Bush's religious right block.

Well that and John McCain called the religious right a bunch of "Right Wing Wackos."

Shouldn't hurt him though. O'bama V McCain is basically going to be Kennedy V Nixon.

Should be interesting if his reputation turns out the same.

Kennedy was really the most overrated president in the history of the US... well him or Regean.  Communism likely would of fell down no matter who was president.

 

No, Reagan was the greatest president of the 20th century. He was flipping sweet. lol

Gosh, don't pull the FDR card!

LOL.  Reagan was by FAR the most overrated president we've ever had.  He's given credit for ending the cold war, when it had just as much to do with the president's before him.

Reagan is the one that started us down the road of never ending debt and trillion dollar deficits.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

If the US does eventually go bankrupt, the fault will be placed squarely on Reagan.

 



whatever said:
Snesboy said:
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
wow this will surely lower his reputation in Europe and among true American liberals.
Hopefully he just said it to appease the US public, I still believe and hope that he thinks lowly of the US public and its God delusion.


There are few candidates that have been more religious then O'Bama. That's why they say he may win a lot of Bush's religious right block.

Well that and John McCain called the religious right a bunch of "Right Wing Wackos."

Shouldn't hurt him though. O'bama V McCain is basically going to be Kennedy V Nixon.

Should be interesting if his reputation turns out the same.

Kennedy was really the most overrated president in the history of the US... well him or Regean.  Communism likely would of fell down no matter who was president.

 

No, Reagan was the greatest president of the 20th century. He was flipping sweet. lol

Gosh, don't pull the FDR card!

LOL.  Reagan was by FAR the most overrated president we've ever had.  He's given credit for ending the cold war, when it had just as much to do with the president's before him.

Reagan is the one that started us down the road of never ending debt and trillion dollar deficits.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

If the US does eventually go bankrupt, the fault will be placed squarely on Reagan.

 

Yeah zfacts.com isn't exactly the most unbiased source though, now is it?

In the interest of fairness lets see what the other side has to say:

"The Reagan years added $1.4 trillion to the federal debt; that much is fact. But that figure is a teeny blip set against the spike in American asset values, a rise created by the tax-cut boom; i.e., a rise created by Dutch himself. When Reagan took office in 1981 the market value of all American assets--stocks, land, crops, houses, commercial buildings, capital equipment, cars, collectibles, precious metals, etc.--was about $16 trillion. When he left office in 1989, that number had doubled to $33 trillion. Consider this bump of $17 trillion next time The New York Times kvetches about the debt and proposes to wipe it out with a tax hike.

Can you imagine a chief executive officer who would refuse to issue $1 of debt in the knowledge that $12 would come back in asset value? Such a CEO would be a shortsighted fool, deserving of a swift kick out the door. Reagan, no fool, never liked deficits but was not unduly troubled by them, either. He pondered his priorities and took out the loan. Then he shattered the Soviet Union and created the conditions for a doubling of American asset value in eight years. For that, Ronald Reagan is the best president of this century. "

-Excerpt from an article written by Rich Karlgaard of Forbes Magazine

Oh, imagine that! There is another side to the story.  Crazy isn't it?

PS - Lets not go into the Reagan debate here, the thread is far enough off-topic as it is.  I'm sure there are plenty of folks who would debate this in another thread.



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konnichiwa said:
MrBubbles said:
highwaystar101 said:
Religion should be kept far away from politics. Imn fact if a political leader is religious they have lost my vote straight away. I think all countries should be athiest too, no state religion whatsoever, think of the problems that will solve.

*looks at russia and china*

you were joking, yeah?

What about them?


They aren't religious and have huge huge human rights problems and other such... much worse then many countries that do have religion intertwined? Like say... the UK. People always blame and talk about the US having church and state problems... you won't even get elected prime minister in the UK if you aren't part of the church of England. Tony Blair felt he wouldn't be aloud to convert until he left.

just make every option have 2 outcomes and 1 person to represent each. have a duel and the winners side wins.



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bardicverse said:
Strategyking92 said:
bardicverse said:
Separation of church & state, please!

Im all for reilgion and faith, but anyone claiming to be doing God's work in the political field pretty much is a heretic

 

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Everyone who believes in a god asks to be able to do gods' will. As they live by their diety. It's the world, get used to it.

 

First off, a 16 yr old doesn't know the world, so don't act like you do. You'll spend the next 10 years of your life having everything you thought you understood disproven. Buckle up kiddo.

On focus, Asking to do god's will and claiming that "god told you" to do something are very different things, especially in politics. Hitler believed god told him to kill the jews. Is that what you want to get "used to"? Politics and religion should be kept as far apart as possible, lest we have the heresies of the church during medieval times again.

 

ha, in that case your trash advice will be disproven... now. Well, 10 more years to go. I hope I don't lose my religion, become an alcoholic, and start killing people, but who knows.

 

EDIT:  I am just really suprised you relied on the juvenile trick of bending my words. You see my words, try to think up the obvious.

 

I am merely saying that the want to do god's work isn't a bad thing. It merely states how religious a person is, which also isn't a bad thing. And if you can't see that, then you haven't learned as much about the world as you should have.

 



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