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FUNGAMESARECOOL on 27 July 2008

why is no one talking about mercenaries 2...... have you seen that game it is freaking awesome


you can destroy anything......



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selnor on 27 July 2008
TheRealMafoo said:
De85 said:
HanzoTheRazor said:
M.A.G has been also said to be impossible to run on the 360, 

People were saying the same things about FFXIII until a few weeks ago. 

 

I am not sure how anyone could make that argument, being no one has seen any real gameplay of FFXIII. I never thought FFXIII could not be done on the 360. FF games have never required a lot of power to run.

I have said it from day one, and I will say it again. Uncharted could not be done on the 360. Proof is, that no one has yet to accomplish it. The cpu power is just not there.

Gears 2 looks great, and Epic got this award because they took the hardware of the 360, and made something special with it. Resistance 2 is going to look better, but it's less of an achievement, because they have more to work with.

Crysis Warhead looks better, but they have a huge advantage in what they have to work with.

This award was not given to Epic because they made the best looking game, it's given to them because they made the most out of what they have to work with. I think Epic deserves it.
Firstly Huxley which is MMOFPS in production for 360 for 3 1/2 years now has no player cap announced yet. So we will see how good it is against MAG.secondly Uncharted could be done on 360. Farcry 2 which was extensively shown at E3 on 360 kicks Uncharted so hard it's not funny. Want proof? Here watch this. Thensay Uncharted couldnt be done on 360 with a strait face. EVERYONE WATCH THIS. Far cry 2 running on 360.http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_8126_en.html

 

 



BMaker11 on 27 July 2008
selnor said:
TheRealMafoo said:
De85 said:
HanzoTheRazor said:
M.A.G has been also said to be impossible to run on the 360, 

People were saying the same things about FFXIII until a few weeks ago. 

 

I am not sure how anyone could make that argument, being no one has seen any real gameplay of FFXIII. I never thought FFXIII could not be done on the 360. FF games have never required a lot of power to run.

I have said it from day one, and I will say it again. Uncharted could not be done on the 360. Proof is, that no one has yet to accomplish it. The cpu power is just not there.

Gears 2 looks great, and Epic got this award because they took the hardware of the 360, and made something special with it. Resistance 2 is going to look better, but it's less of an achievement, because they have more to work with.

Crysis Warhead looks better, but they have a huge advantage in what they have to work with.

This award was not given to Epic because they made the best looking game, it's given to them because they made the most out of what they have to work with. I think Epic deserves it.
Firstly Huxley which is MMOFPS in production for 360 for 3 1/2 years now has no player cap announced yet. So we will see how good it is against MAG.secondly Uncharted could be done on 360. Farcry 2 which was extensively shown at E3 on 360 kicks Uncharted so hard it's not funny. Want proof? Here watch this. Thensay Uncharted couldnt be done on 360 with a strait face. EVERYONE WATCH THIS. Far cry 2 running on 360.http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_8126_en.html

 

 

Uhh....Uncharted couldn't be done on the 360 not because of graphics, but from technical things, like seamless loading from the disc.

There were absolutely NO load times in that game

 



Squilliam on 27 July 2008
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
TheRealMafoo said:
De85 said:
HanzoTheRazor said:
M.A.G has been also said to be impossible to run on the 360, 

People were saying the same things about FFXIII until a few weeks ago. 

 

I am not sure how anyone could make that argument, being no one has seen any real gameplay of FFXIII. I never thought FFXIII could not be done on the 360. FF games have never required a lot of power to run.

I have said it from day one, and I will say it again. Uncharted could not be done on the 360. Proof is, that no one has yet to accomplish it. The cpu power is just not there.

Gears 2 looks great, and Epic got this award because they took the hardware of the 360, and made something special with it. Resistance 2 is going to look better, but it's less of an achievement, because they have more to work with.

Crysis Warhead looks better, but they have a huge advantage in what they have to work with.

This award was not given to Epic because they made the best looking game, it's given to them because they made the most out of what they have to work with. I think Epic deserves it.
Firstly Huxley which is MMOFPS in production for 360 for 3 1/2 years now has no player cap announced yet. So we will see how good it is against MAG.secondly Uncharted could be done on 360. Farcry 2 which was extensively shown at E3 on 360 kicks Uncharted so hard it's not funny. Want proof? Here watch this. Thensay Uncharted couldnt be done on 360 with a strait face. EVERYONE WATCH THIS. Far cry 2 running on 360.http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_8126_en.html

 

 

Uhh....Uncharted couldn't be done on the 360 not because of graphics, but from technical things, like seamless loading from the disc. Like seamless loading from a disk thats faster than the 2* Blu Ray drive in the PS3? I think you shot yourself in the foot there.

There were absolutely NO load times in that game

 

 

 



Tease.

TheRealMafoo on 27 July 2008
Squilliam said:
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
TheRealMafoo said:
De85 said:
HanzoTheRazor said:
M.A.G has been also said to be impossible to run on the 360, 

People were saying the same things about FFXIII until a few weeks ago. 

 

I am not sure how anyone could make that argument, being no one has seen any real gameplay of FFXIII. I never thought FFXIII could not be done on the 360. FF games have never required a lot of power to run.

I have said it from day one, and I will say it again. Uncharted could not be done on the 360. Proof is, that no one has yet to accomplish it. The cpu power is just not there.

Gears 2 looks great, and Epic got this award because they took the hardware of the 360, and made something special with it. Resistance 2 is going to look better, but it's less of an achievement, because they have more to work with.

Crysis Warhead looks better, but they have a huge advantage in what they have to work with.

This award was not given to Epic because they made the best looking game, it's given to them because they made the most out of what they have to work with. I think Epic deserves it.
Firstly Huxley which is MMOFPS in production for 360 for 3 1/2 years now has no player cap announced yet. So we will see how good it is against MAG.secondly Uncharted could be done on 360. Farcry 2 which was extensively shown at E3 on 360 kicks Uncharted so hard it's not funny. Want proof? Here watch this. Thensay Uncharted couldnt be done on 360 with a strait face. EVERYONE WATCH THIS. Far cry 2 running on 360.http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_8126_en.html

 

 

Uhh....Uncharted couldn't be done on the 360 not because of graphics, but from technical things, like seamless loading from the disc. Like seamless loading from a disk thats faster than the 2* Blu Ray drive in the PS3? I think you shot yourself in the foot there.

There were absolutely NO load times in that game

 

 

 

 

It doesn't load form the disk, it streams to the Hard Drive while you play, so when you get to the end of the level, the next one is already there for you. This could be done on the 360, if it was only allowed to be played on a 360 with a hard drive.

Uncharted could not be done on the 360, because a lot of the effects that were done took advantage of the insane floating point math in the PS3. It's not that a great game that rivals it's look (like farcry 2) cannot achieve visual parody, it's that the visual techniques used in Uncharted could not be done on the 360.

Farcry looks great. It will look great on the PS3 and the 360. What makes Uncharted look great on the PS3, can not be done in the 360.



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Squilliam on 27 July 2008
TheRealMafoo said:

 

It doesn't load form the disk, it streams to the Hard Drive while you play, so when you get to the end of the level, the next one is already there for you. This could be done on the 360, if it was only allowed to be played on a 360 with a hard drive.

Uncharted could not be done on the 360, because a lot of the effects that were done took advantage of the insane floating point math in the PS3. It's not that a great game that rivals it's look (like farcry 2) cannot achieve visual parody , it's that the visual techniques used in Uncharted could not be done on the 360.

Farcry looks great. It will look great on the PS3 and the 360. What makes Uncharted look great on the PS3, can not be done in the 360.

Games do cache on the Xbox360 HDD - So therefore only Arcade users would see a loading screen.

The Xenon is no slouch for floating point performance, the real issue is the 8 render passes that are done in the game on the Xbox360. It would have to be completely redone to suit the Xbox360 architecture.

Uncharted couldn't be done on the Xbox360 AS IS, but it could be made/rewritten to work on the Xbox360.

 



Tease.

Retrasado on 27 July 2008
selnor said:
Firstly Huxley which is MMOFPS in production for 360 for 3 1/2 years now has no player cap announced yet. So we will see how good it is against MAG.secondly Uncharted could be done on 360. Farcry 2 which was extensively shown at E3 on 360 kicks Uncharted so hard it's not funny. Want proof? Here watch this. Thensay Uncharted couldnt be done on 360 with a strait face. EVERYONE WATCH THIS. Far cry 2 running on 360.http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_8126_en.html

 

 

heh. I was hoping you weren't going to show that vid. Yeah, it does look pretty good.... then you see the textures in the background... ugh. I agree that game looks great (not really sure if it's better than uncharted though) but that is not a way to demonstrate that Uncharted could be done on the 360. (And no, I'm not saying Uncharted could not be done on the 360 because it almost definitely could.)

 



Not trying to be a fanboy. Of course, it's hard when you own the best console eve... dang it

ultraslick on 27 July 2008

I would vote in favor of Killzone 2. The graphics will be better for this game. But it will be comparable to the difference between up-converted dvd's and blu-ray.

Some may notice it a alot, and some not at all.

Point is.. Both games will look great. Lets just hope either one of them has a descent plot this time around.



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Strategyking92 on 27 July 2008
Skeeuk said:
Jlmadyson said:
BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
And peoplesay that the 360 couldnt do better or keep up with the PS3 in graphics. LOL bu bu bu bu the CELL.

KZ2 > Gears 2

Uncharted > Gears 1

 

 Gears 2 is so much more impressive than K2 at this point and it would seem IGN agrees.

but gametrailers(xbox fanboys) agree that killzone 2 looks better. so if ign(mainly xbox fanboys) take to gears 2, i guess its one apiece at the moment.

looking at both gameplay videos killzone 2 looks way more impressive

 

 

lol, your solution to why ps3 games score lower is that the reviewers are fanboys :P sorry, been done. I guess they were ps2 fanboys last gen :P



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TheRealMafoo on 27 July 2008
Squilliam said:
TheRealMafoo said:

 

It doesn't load form the disk, it streams to the Hard Drive while you play, so when you get to the end of the level, the next one is already there for you. This could be done on the 360, if it was only allowed to be played on a 360 with a hard drive.

Uncharted could not be done on the 360, because a lot of the effects that were done took advantage of the insane floating point math in the PS3. It's not that a great game that rivals it's look (like farcry 2) cannot achieve visual parody , it's that the visual techniques used in Uncharted could not be done on the 360.

Farcry looks great. It will look great on the PS3 and the 360. What makes Uncharted look great on the PS3, can not be done in the 360.

Games do cache on the Xbox360 HDD - So therefore only Arcade users would see a loading screen.

The Xenon is no slouch for floating point performance, the real issue is the 8 render passes that are done in the game on the Xbox360. It would have to be completely redone to suit the Xbox360 architecture.

Uncharted couldn't be done on the Xbox360 AS IS, but it could be made/rewritten to work on the Xbox360.

 

 

I am sure if they wrote uncharted for the 360, it would be just as fun to play, and what you would loose visually, would have no real impact. The Cell is good at doing the types of math needed for great fluid dynamics. You would have to greatly reduce the water calculations on the 360. In the end however, it probably won't matter much.

It does make things look nice when you simulate them though. A good example is the water effects in Gears 2 vs Resistance 2. Gears water looks like a joke in comparison.