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madskillz on 23 July 2008

Squilliam,

LOL at the folks trying to debate what you posted. The dev's facts speak for themselves. Thanks for taking the time and effort to post data and contest folks who are stating their opinion and hearsay as fact. ROTFLMBO.



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ssj12 on 23 July 2008
Squilliam said:
Guys! I made an incredible discovery!

I have proof that the PS3 cannot run simple Xbox360 games like Kameo - launch titles no less!

I putted the Xbox360 DVD into teh PS3 and it NOT WORKIZZLEZ

Thereforez Xobx630 is > PSTree

 

you know I would have aughed my ars off if it worked.



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Dgc1808 on 23 July 2008
Squilliam said:
Guys! I made an incredible discovery!

I have proof that the PS3 cannot run simple Xbox360 games like Kameo - launch titles no less!

I putted the Xbox360 DVD into teh PS3 and it NOT WORKIZZLEZ

Thereforez Xobx630 is > PSTree

 

 Put Resistance: Fall of Man in a 360 and check what happens....



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Phasma on 23 July 2008

I can sum up this real easy. Gears of war 2 graphics vs Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 Graphics.... yeah we all know which ONES look better :D



ChronotriggerJM on 23 July 2008
madskillz said:
Squilliam,

LOL at the folks trying to debate what you posted. The dev's facts speak for themselves. Thanks for taking the time and effort to post data and contest folks who are stating their opinion and hearsay as fact. ROTFLMBO.

 

The dev's fact's do indeed speak for themselves... about some other subject that has nothing to do with this thread >_>;;

I like this, Squilliam put's 360>PS3 and states developer "facts". People believe him in spades.

These very same developers say PS3>360, and it's Sony's PR nonsense. You guys rock :D



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libellule on 23 July 2008

I m not going to say which console is th best

but looking at only 2 title is quite ridiculus ..

Also CoD4 PS3 was said to superior to CoD4 Xbox360

@Phasma,

if u like "games on rail", Gears is the best for sure.



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thepickelman on 23 July 2008

Ok, ok, so GTA IV has more oomph in the 360. We all know that its 720p in the 360 and only 640 in the PS3... So congratulations to me for having a 360! However, I don't see it making a huge difference, because if you have played both PS3 and 360 versions, the PS3 version actually looks better and doesn't tear. So congratulations to me for having a PS3! And really, you give all the data and specs you want, when it comes down to it the better game is the one that looks and plays better.

Take the orange box for example. Everyone and their mom should prefer playing it on 360 cause it has problems on the PS3. But I take GTA IV on PS3 over Xbox.

My point is who gives a flying F! The PS3 and the 360 have differences. Somethings actually look better on one than the other and vice versa. As time goes on we'll continue to see more of this and we'll continue to see more pariety.

The fact is you cannot make a blanket statement that the Xbox 360 is an overall better system than the PS3 and then rely solely on processing and framerate. Who cares how long or how hard it is for the devs to create a game for either system. The best way to determine which system is better is to play both. You'll find that both have games that work great with the system and ports that work better on one than the other. But really its a toss up for the most part. Right now, ports tend to favor 360, but that gap seems to be closing everyday. Play what you want on what you like to play it on. If you like playing shooters online, get into Halo. If you like playing online but want to play something different than FPS, get Warhawk. Both are equally fun and decent looking games.

I personally prefer the PS3 overall for all its capabilities outside of gaming and its free online. But thats me and that doesn't really have anything to do with this thread. I own more games on the 360... so maybe that does.  Ultimately my favorite game I have played this generation was Heavenly Sword, which ultimatly seems to have been a bust.  So maybe my point is not valid at all.



Dgc1808 on 23 July 2008
Phasma said:
I can sum up this real easy. Gears of war 2 graphics vs Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 Graphics.... yeah we all know which ONES look better :D

 

 Why do people tryy to always compare games completely on graphics alone....... If graphics were what everyone wanted in a game.... then the Wii wouldn't be selling like the beast that it is...



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Squilliam on 23 July 2008
ChronotriggerJM said:
Squilliam said:
ChronotriggerJM said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
SamuelRSmith said:
NFGBlinkAC said:
Topic fails at an epic level

 

 Please direct me to the level at which it fails at.

 

 It uses statistics to prove a point. Lately, every thread the OP does this in is either ignored or attacked like hell.

 

The point he's trying to prove, and the fact's he's pulling from don't support the claim though -_-; The fact's he's using prove that it's easier to program for, and cheaper to program for... We already knew this. The only way you'll get to see what a system is really capable of is via exclusives. And it's almost universally accepted that PS3 exclusives push the "cutting" edge. I don't wait for the next 360 game to showcase what consoles of this gen can do graphically, I don't wait for the 360 to see how rediculous the player counts can get up to for a multi-player game, I don't wait for the 360 to do anything as far as technology is concerned >_> In my opinion it's not the console holding the deck of cards.

Because the 360 is easier to work with, it will be 100% utilized long before the PS3 is, and in my opinion it's still playing catch up.

 

Huxley was announced wayyy before MAG <-- Similar player numbers, did you ignore it? Oh... Its only special when its announced for the PS3.

Also could you disprove this " Epic - If given the motivation and budget/time of Gearbox could produce a game thats the equall or better technically as Killzone 2" Which is precisely why using exclusives can be a bad idea for comparison. (Remember they did Gears 2 in less than 2 years, where Gearbox could have been working on Killzone 2 for almost 5 years by the time its released.)

 

 

From what I've been told, Huxley wasn't even a technical "first person shooter", I've heard it was something entirely different. If that's true, why are we comparing FPS matches with MMO's? Simple 200 men battles vs 256 is quite similar really. I don't think I would notice much difference between the two.

Sure, I can disprove that. How long did it take Epic to make Unreal Tourney 3 on the PS3? From all acounts they said it was a much better performing game compared to Gears of War, and I'm sure it costed them a miniscule amount of money as well. You can nit-pick all you want from different developers, but what they achieve still stands true. The PS3 has supported higher polygon counts, has supported the furthest draw distances, the most effects on screen, locked framerates, the highest player counts, hell... just name it. I can't pull these out of nowhere, the accomplishments list on the PS3 is higher than that of the 360. By an easy hands down I might add.

Polygon counts, Draw distance and most effects are mainly a function of GPU performance, not CPU. The Xbox360 has an edge here as most people agree. Framerates - You mean the 26 FPS average MGSIV gets? Thats not locked by any definition. 

I'm just saying, should Epic put the resources in, they COULD definitely out-do KZ2 on a technical scale, however, I think it would be much easier for them to do on PS3 hardware as opposed to 360 hardware. If so many other developers could out-do anything seen on the 360 with the PS3, Epic of all companies could really work it to the tooth. Ok - So if KZ2 is utilizing 1/2 of the PS3 processor as we've seen posted by MikeB and the PS3 CPU is twice the capacity of the Xbox360 CPU and I think you said its easier to use 100% of the Xbox360 CPU than the Cell do you get where im heading? Because its all theoretical bullshit and it doesn't mean anything. I would pick that ID - Valve - Epic - Infinity Ward (Notice they are all PC developers? Say ty to Microsoft for that) Could do Killzone 2 on the Xbox360 if given the same budget and time. They wouldn't because they have better things to do, but they could)  Anyway nothing between the CPU/GPU/Memory/Development architecture anyway, but ya Hard drives help.

 

 

 



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Phendrana on 23 July 2008
NNN2004 said:
Phendrana said:
NNN2004 said:
Phendrana said:
Do you think the 360's year head start may have something to do with this? Games always get better as consoles progress through their life cycle. Just a thought. I really have no idea.

like always sony fans say that as argument ... ok u want a proof that ur mistaken .. i will give u one ... ps3 & Wii launch at the same year no one year head start no nothing, both have new technologies and the developers need a time to used to it .... then why the hell Wii have more games & no delays ?? why the hell Wii make 4 or 5 games with the same time sony take it to make one game ??!! wake up Fan .. its not an argument anymore.

 

Sony fan, wtf? If anything I'm a Nintendo fan who also owns a PS3. It was an honest question. Don't be so defensive. I really couldn't care less about PS3 vs. 360 since they both play pretty much the same games. Arguing about which HD console looks better is like two twins arguing over who has the better haircut.

And your example doesn't make any sense.

@Squilliam

Thanks for answering my question reasonably.

 

why its not making sense ?? both are new consoles and both need some time for developers to use to it so where is the non sense ?? and if u want to appear as a nintendo fan .. remove ur ps3 gamertag from ur sign.

 

I get the first part. It's everything after that I don't understand. It seems like there are some key words missing.

I'd rather not appear as any type of "fan" (if you mean fanboy). I enjoy games. All this bickering over consoles just seems petty.