I honestly despise shoddy logic. First the PS3 is not the PS2 if anyone is confused they do not necessarily possess the same demographics. Second the PS3 has almost no representation of the genre period. Eighteen months into the generation, and almost nothing to show for it. Third sales in Japan do not impress me much especially for a console with almost four times the install.

The best sales for a RPG in Japan for the PS3 is an impressive 140,000. That is the absolute best which is pathetic with 2.28 million consoles sold. Where as the best sales of a RPG in Japan for the 360 is 210,000 on a install base of 600,000. Look at that 360 dominates the PS3 in total sales, and in attach rate even when Sony has a nearly four to one hardware advantage.

No wonder Square has not been very happy with the PS3, and more to the point why it is important for them to be more supportive of Microsoft. Microsoft is doing a better job of selling the genre as a whole. All around Sony has done a terribly shitty job. I know some will take offense, but that is what Square must be thinking. The PS3 is a gaming money pit. You spend more to make a game, and have far fewer sales. That is the definition of a lose lose scenario unless Sony is helping to back the production costs.

Just use the charts to see for yourself. Sony has yet to sell more then a million copies of any role playing game world wide. Even Oblivion a game that has an average review of ninety five out of a hundred cannot sell more then three quarters of a million. Despite the fact that on the 360 it has sold over two and a half million. Hell Lost Odyssey has sold more copies on the 360 then the PS3 has sold copies of Oblivion.

Most role playing games on the PS3 sell around just one hundred and fifty thousand copies. The only exception being Oblivion. Meanwhile the 360 has three titles that have sold over two million copies, two other titles that have like sold over half a million, and even Eternal Sonata has sold over a quarter million copies. Hell the Oblivion expansion is on par with the majority of PS3 role playing games.

This is the reality the genre does better on the 360, and there is no reason to think that the PS3 is a more viable format. The statistics are painting a very plain picture the PS3 is actually the worst place to try and hock role playing games. Any argument to the contrary is plain bigotry, and willful ignorance. Oh and do not tell me about the Japanese love of role playing games, because quite frankly the charts aren't bearing that out for the current crop of consoles in Japan.

Getting kind of tired to explain this over and over, because someone is woefully behind the times by three years. However as long as someone is going to spout propaganda I suppose I will have to smack it down, and please have the decency to not say that Valkyrie Chronicles is a bad game. Enough PS3 owners on these forums eagerly await its release in their markets.

Yes I also believe this will probably go to 360. I don't trust SE anymore. SAYING it's exclusive doesn't guarantee anything.

i would find it funny if PS3 owners rejected FFXIII because of the non exclusivity and all brought FFvsXIII instead. that would be epic


ok now back to earth to me any square enix game that is said to be exclusive is always going to be multiplat in the back of my mind

we will have to see if sony tries to keep it exclusive

While your rant is of impressive size, I stopped reading it a couple paragraphs in. The jist I'm getting from it is that the 360 is apparently in your view the new RPG machine, and then go on to quote some stuff from Japan.

For your information, Square Enix said flatly in their conference that FFXIII will not be released on the 360 in Japan. They also stated plainly that the only reason they are bringing it to the 360 in Western territories is because the 360 has a larger install base and they want to make money.

Further more, while browsing your thesis I found the part about the PS3 just not being a place for RPG's faulty in Logic. Personally I couldn't care less, since I own all three and can play any RPG that I so choose, but this is the 2nd year on the Market for the 360 and it has just in the last couple quarters gotten solid RPG's. I expect the same amount of time to ramp up for the PS3. This time next year I would expect you to have a giant heaping bowl of steaming crow in front of you for dinner. Simply put, people want to make as much money as possible, and there is an audience for RPG's on the PS3 so there will be RPG's on the system. As many, and as good as any on the 360.

Also I find your statement pretty disingenuous. Seeing as that the huge AAA block buster 360 JRPG (Lost Odyssey) only sold 750,000 copies to an install base of what? 18,000,000 people? If theres one that did better, let me know.

Like I said previously, I didnt read your whole post, mostly because Im in bed on my Lap top watching the gem of television that is Deadliest Catch and cant be bothered to pay attention to a dissertation. Love you though. :)

Well... We have exclusivity to deadliest catch: alaskan storm the video game! ha! take that!

A few notes about FFVXIII coming to Xbox 360 (both for and against), and a few questions for the VXIII fanbase that know more about it than I:

When is VXIII coming out in relation to the mainline XIII?

The reason I ask this is that, depending on when it comes out, will play a large part in determining if there will be a port of VXIII to 360. Theoretically, if VXIII launches later (6+ months after XIII launches in it's last major territory), I would give VXIII a higher chance to come to the 360.

Ultimately, what will determine VXIII coming to the Xbox 360 is one simple thing: Money. Just like XIII. Microsoft has a make-or-break next year or so to determine what happens. Tales of Vesperia is launching in 2 weeks, followed by Infinite Undiscovery, and more importantly: The Last Remnant. Depending on how sales go for those 3 games (as well as later titles), will greatly determine VXIII's chances of being multiplat.

I would think that Square will most likely port VXIII to the Xbox 360, especially for Western audiences. I am certain that if VXIII is more action-based, ala Kingom Hearts (which, if it played like KH, but more dark and violent, I'd be estatic), then I think that Square would strongly be considering porting the game to the Xbo 360: Oblivion is well over 2 million copies sold, and Mass Effect (the closest game, I guess, to VXIII) hit 2 million copies sold this week, and is blowing past the sales rate Oblivion had too. Those 2 games, which have more to say than other typical JRPGs, could be telling on what Square does. The Xbox 360, love it or not, has had a very solid track record of selling Western-themed RPG games, and I am sure square has seen......

So, looking at that, for Western RPGs (can you think of others?), the X360 has outsold the PS3 titles by insane margins for both multiplat titles, and also how well sub-par WRPGs (such as TW) have sold oh-so well on the 360.

I am sure Square is aware of such things, which has led to XIII coming to the X360. So again, lets see how this year's bumper crop of RPGs, both East and West fare. If they do very well, and lead the X360 to new heights (LO hitting 1m+, ToV, IU, and TLR all hitting 1m or more), I'd think that VXIII to X360 is nearly a shoe-in.

So Xbox 360 fans: Do your part. Buy RPGs on the Xbox 360. Lets get VXIII on the 360 so Starcraft doesn't have to buy a PS3.

that really isnt a balanced comparison.

The 360 was the only console out when Oblivian was released and there is the difference in market share when Marvel was released. I'm almost sure if both were released now they would sell pretty evenly.

Just ask yourself... why would Square-Enix NOT port this game to the 360?

one question ,,,

what genre is FFVXIII?is it RPG again?(I wanna know cause I really do not get excited for RPG games and to be honest I have never played a single FF game before)