alpha_dk said:
libellule said:
alpha_dk said:
libellule said:
alpha_dk said:
libellule said: To repeat myself :
IF BR becomes mainstream in 2 years
Digital distribution will be mainstream in 7 years !!!
Also, PS3, ALL SKU, have HDD AND BR
On the Xbox360, NO SKU has BR
and only 2 sku on 3, has HDD
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Digital Distribution is already more mainstream than Blu-Ray. All you have to do is look at the viewership of Hulu, one of MANY digital distribution outlets, which in a given month is SEVERAL TIMES the LTD sales of Blu-Ray.
Don't you get it? Digital Distribution has already beaten Blu-Ray. It already has a greater mindshare, and greater usage than Blu-Ray. At the same time, DVD sales are up more than Blu-Ray sales (if you calculate the revenue increase/unit increase from this article, you'll see that most of the physical media gains were in DVD, not blu-ray).
Right now, the movie industry is in a transition from DVDs to digital distribution. I am sure BR will last a while, as will DVDs (much as the CD has), but the future is written in stone, and it has already started.
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==> To me, ur 2 links prove NOTHING about what ur are claiming except maybe that consumers still prefer buy things "in the old style" (BR/DVD) over digital distribution
Also my last link http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/07/18/nielsen-videoscan-high-def-market-share-for-week-ending-july-13t/
explain you why BR is slowly "eating" DVD sales.
"Online is the future, DVD is the present and BR somewhere between the 2."
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Your link is worthless when it comes to the mass market. Cherrypicking the top X BR movies to compare is a fallacious argument.
==> u have a point.
Looking at the whole state of the industry as in my third link, you see both unit sales and revenue growing at a rate of 1.1%
==> Y
We all know that BR movies bring in more revenue than DVD sales per item.µ
==> why ? personnaly, I dont know
Therefore, if BR were driving the growth in physical media, the revenue would be growing at a rate faster than the unit sales; more money per sale = more money growth than unit growth. However, because the two are equal, we know that any growth in BR movie sales is offset by more growth in DVD sales.
==> huh ? where do we know this ?
we have a 1.1 revenue growth for both format. Outside this informations, all is possible : both format grow 1.1% during the first half of 08 OR BR grows while DVD decrease OR DVD grows while BR decrease.
U are overinterpreting ur datas or my english is too poor to understand ur link (sorry)
If BR sales have gone up 10 Million Units, DVD sales have risen MORE than 10 million units. That's not what we saw in the DVD transition; by this point, even though VHS was still the market leader, it was on a downslope as people adopted DVD. DVD, on the other hand, is still on an upslope (one that is faster than BR, as it turns out)
==> no link ..
At the same time, Digital Downloads have the greatest upslope of them all.
You said, and I quote,
IF BR becomes mainstream in 2 years
Digital distribution will be mainstream in 7 years !!!
I am showing you the numbers that say you're wrong. Digital Distribution is already showing itself to have a much greater chance to hit the mainstream than BR.
==> According to me, u have shown nothing
It has faster growth as well as a larger userbase right now
==> "potential userbase" yes
, a smaller barrier to entry, and a diverse, healthy ecosystem of companies competing for it. It has all the marks of being the true replacement to DVD; BR, at this point, will end up being a niche product like UMD (that is, it still gets the movies, but will be nowhere near the driving force in the industry).
==> that is ur free guess.
My free guess : "Online is the future, DVD is the present and BR somewhere between the 2."
People dont buy video online, they still prefer to have a material support.
Online is still not so important : just look at the Wii ...
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Did you even read the links? My guess is no.
==> I tried to understand them
The third link talks about the rate of growth of revenue and unit sales.
My source for BR being more revenue per sale is gotten from the fact that BR costs around $30/disk in the US, whereas most DVDs max out at 20ish, and huge tracts of DVDs are available for less than $10. Frankly, it's common knowledge that a BR sale is more revenue than a DVD sale, that can be seen at any time when you go to a store.
We know that unit growth and revenue growth are the same in terms of % because of the link that talks about them; they are both 1.1% growth.
==> is it combined or not ?
It's basic math from the information I gave to show that DVD unit sales are growing faster than BR sales. As this is a sales website, I will leave the calculations up to you, and I encourage you to prove me wrong (hint: you won't be able to. The math works out).
==> the matter is "combined or not"
And yes, Digital Distribution does have a higher potential userbase right now, but it ALSO has a higher ACTUAL userbase as of right now. I've only been using Hulu in my calculations so far; this is a small subset of the digital users out there.
Youtube, Apple Movie Store, Netflix, Amazon; all these companies have their own users, and Youtube alone dwarfs the number of total BR players on the market. Hulu is approaching rapidly, even if you count every single PS3 owner as a member of the BR movie-buying userbase, and the others have certainly shown enough profit so far that they're expanding their offerings.
==> u have shown NOTHING about the VOD growht, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
just assumption. Maybe u are right, maybe not.
Personnaly, I assume VOD = mainstream 2015
BR = mainstream 2010
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