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dib8rman on 19 July 2008

Actually I saw the others were italicized and while I posted that I figured.

"I bet he's going to respond in a smirk manner and point out the obvious like it was some elusive prophetic enigma that only he could of contemplated. I could probably avoid the entire issue by pointing out the obvious here to seal the deal on this post which is that is that the other game titles are each unique - but I guess it wont matter because I'll be outside enjoying the day by the time he responds."

Darn internet and it's addictiing aspects.

Oh an I was too lazy to point the rest out because I just assumed you'd notice the rhetoric - guess not.;)



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blackstar on 19 July 2008
kingofwale said:
Kasz216 said:
Well here's an actual reporter listing the budget at 40 million.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/7058-games-convention-2007-videos-halo-wars-killzone-2-hellgate-london/

 

a "reported claim", it's really not a solid source. But if it does has a 40 million budget, then Anything short of AAA quality would consider disappointing.

 

 if it doesn't get AAA , i will travel to japan to kill the development team in thier zone



Bursche on 19 July 2008
Skeeuk said:

its impossible to pick one, i can only pick two of them.

i wont detail the two games and the reason i think they will fail.

 

 I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the Conduit and Too Human :P



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appolose on 19 July 2008

Why is everyone calling "The Conduit" generic?

We've hardly seen any gameplay videos, and we know it has puzzle aspects to it. It's rather early to grade that aspect.

It has the Wiimote, which immediately differentiates from 99% of all shooters.

The screenshots being referred to are either old or horrible, or both. The game still has 9 months of development to go through.

Also, seeing as half the Wii owners on here are absolutely pumped about it (and on IGN), I think its success would depend on how well they market it, i.e., market it at all.



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mrstickball on 19 July 2008

Wii: The Conduit
PS3: LittleBigPlanet
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Fishie on 19 July 2008
kingofwale said:
Fishie said:
kingofwale said:

Here's the list to pick from. One per current gen console, no biase.


Wii: The Conduit

PS3: Killzone 2

Xbox360: Too Human.

 

please provide reason for your answers.

Why should WE provide reasons when you are too lazy to do it yourself?

 

because after 200 posts, you should realize this is a forum? A place where people VOICE their opinion?

I simply supply the list. Don't want to do it? Don't reply, It's a free forum here.

 

I am free to reply here, which coincedentaly I DID.

 



FJ-Warez on 19 July 2008

From sales, the fail will go:
The Conduit>Too Human>Killzone

From dev time, budget size, hype, the fail will go...
Killzone2>TooHuman>The Conduit

Is about perpective, high budget titles with several years on dev time have more chances to end up on a fail... Small budget title with modest sales could be a great winning for a small company...

Comparing Killzone 2 (High budget, hyped since 2005, outsourcing resources, photoshoped issues, etc) with the Conduit (Small budget, small dev team, hyped since the last three months only on the internet, showing demos from a dev kit on a small tv) is a little unfair...



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Fishie on 19 July 2008
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
SnakeEyez said:
Bursche said:
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
Wii: MadWorld
PS3: Killzone 2
360: Halo Wars (not really fail, but will be a disappointment compared to the Halo series)

read my title, I said "PICK one"

 

not "provide your own list".

 

Thank you

 

Well then this is a lame thread.

 

I think Killzone 2 will both fail saleswise (aka not make up how much was spent on it) and will not be the AAA game in the reviews.

 

 

Wanna make a bet about that?

 

Ill make a bet that there will be more profit on the Conduit than on Killzone 2. I dont exactly know how much they would have to sell to recoop costs on Killzone 2, but it has to be quite a pretty penny.

 

 

kinda make what you first said about "not make up how much was spent on it" quite a hypocrisy, no?

 

Seriously people, Don't assume stuff you know nothing about. And please stick to the topic.

THe mod has spoken, keep it clean.

 

Hows that hypocritical? Killzone could sell 3 million copies, but if it didnt turn a profit, it wont be successful. On the other hand, the Conduit could sell 300,000 copies, and turn a big profit, and that would be very successful.

Profit ultimately decided what is considered successful or a failure because if a high hyped, high budget game gets okay sales, it is a failure. But if a low budget, high hyped game gets the same okay sales, it is a success.

That is why games like No More Heroes and Zack and Wiki are successes, because they were lower budget titles.

Again, you don't know Killzone/The Conduit's budget, you don't know the profit margin per game sold, and you sure don't know how many it will sell. Please stop predictions on things you know absolutely nothing about.

Go with sales number, let the marketing department to worry about the profit line, please.

 

I know killzone`s budget, lets just say that at this point they dont even hope for the game to break even.

They just want it to drive PS3 sales.

 



obieslut on 19 July 2008

conduit



Fishie on 19 July 2008
Kasz216 said:
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
SnakeEyez said:
Bursche said:
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
Wii: MadWorld
PS3: Killzone 2
360: Halo Wars (not really fail, but will be a disappointment compared to the Halo series)

read my title, I said "PICK one"

 

not "provide your own list".

 

Thank you

 

Well then this is a lame thread.

 

I think Killzone 2 will both fail saleswise (aka not make up how much was spent on it) and will not be the AAA game in the reviews.

 

 

Wanna make a bet about that?

 

Ill make a bet that there will be more profit on the Conduit than on Killzone 2. I dont exactly know how much they would have to sell to recoop costs on Killzone 2, but it has to be quite a pretty penny.

 

 

kinda make what you first said about "not make up how much was spent on it" quite a hypocrisy, no?

 

Seriously people, Don't assume stuff you know nothing about. And please stick to the topic.

THe mod has spoken, keep it clean.

We do know that Killzone 3 has a massive budget though. We know it was at 40-50 million like... months ago.

If you want what will sell the least... that should be in your original post.

As flops are mostly based on expected revenue... from companies.  And bad reviews.  From players.

 

Last year in a Dutch newspaper the producer of Killzone2 called it the most expensive Dutch entertainment product ever at more then twice the developing costs(so far) of the most expensive Dutch movie ever.

This means the costs last year had spiralled to over 36 million €(Black Book cost 18 million €).

36 Million € = 57+ Million US $

 

And that was LAST YEAR.