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kingofwale on 19 July 2008
davidwes said:
kingofwale said:
Fishie said:
kingofwale said:

Here's the list to pick from. One per current gen console, no biase.


Wii: The Conduit

PS3: Killzone 2

Xbox360: Too Human.

 

please provide reason for your answers.

Why should WE provide reasons when you are too lazy to do it yourself?

 

because after 200 posts, you should realize this is a forum? A place where people VOICE their opinion?

I simply supply the list. Don't want to do it? Don't reply, It's a free forum here.

 

This is a free forum, so therefore if we think we can add to your list then we should!!!! The person who starts a topic is not GOD. He or she can't control where that topic goes.

 

 

again, this is my thread, with specific guideline of how I want people to talk about. Don't like it? Go start your own thread and don't post there.

My guideline is there to keep this topic civil and clean,

 



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Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
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Bursche on 19 July 2008
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
SnakeEyez said:
Bursche said:
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
Wii: MadWorld
PS3: Killzone 2
360: Halo Wars (not really fail, but will be a disappointment compared to the Halo series)

read my title, I said "PICK one"

 

not "provide your own list".

 

Thank you

 

Well then this is a lame thread.

 

I think Killzone 2 will both fail saleswise (aka not make up how much was spent on it) and will not be the AAA game in the reviews.

 

 

Wanna make a bet about that?

 

Ill make a bet that there will be more profit on the Conduit than on Killzone 2. I dont exactly know how much they would have to sell to recoop costs on Killzone 2, but it has to be quite a pretty penny.

 

 

kinda make what you first said about "not make up how much was spent on it" quite a hypocrisy, no?

 

Seriously people, Don't assume stuff you know nothing about. And please stick to the topic.

THe mod has spoken, keep it clean.

 

 Hows that hypocritical? Killzone could sell 3 million copies, but if it didnt turn a profit, it wont be successful. On the other hand, the Conduit could sell 300,000 copies, and turn a big profit, and that would be very successful.

Profit ultimately decided what is considered successful or a failure because if a high hyped, high budget game gets okay sales, it is a failure. But if a low budget, high hyped game gets the same okay sales, it is a success.

That is why games like No More Heroes and Zack and Wiki are successes, because they were lower budget titles.



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LittleBigFan92 on 19 July 2008

Too Human. The previews have been negative and the demo showed just an average game.



Kasz216 on 19 July 2008

I'll go with conduit.

It's going to not have any advertising, while the other two games will likely be advertised nonstop.

It'll make money, but it won't do the crazy numbers some predict.

Ironically it may be the only one of the three that does make money.

Yet it will be considered the biggest flop via prediction thread anyway.



MrBubbles on 19 July 2008
kingofwale said:

Seriously people, Don't assume stuff you know nothing about. And please stick to the topic.

 

 

sooo....you want us not to participate in your thread, becase we cant possibly know ...then you want us to participate after you just told us not to....



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kingofwale on 19 July 2008
Bursche said:
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
SnakeEyez said:
Bursche said:
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
Wii: MadWorld
PS3: Killzone 2
360: Halo Wars (not really fail, but will be a disappointment compared to the Halo series)

read my title, I said "PICK one"

 

not "provide your own list".

 

Thank you

 

Well then this is a lame thread.

 

I think Killzone 2 will both fail saleswise (aka not make up how much was spent on it) and will not be the AAA game in the reviews.

 

 

Wanna make a bet about that?

 

Ill make a bet that there will be more profit on the Conduit than on Killzone 2. I dont exactly know how much they would have to sell to recoop costs on Killzone 2, but it has to be quite a pretty penny.

 

 

kinda make what you first said about "not make up how much was spent on it" quite a hypocrisy, no?

 

Seriously people, Don't assume stuff you know nothing about. And please stick to the topic.

THe mod has spoken, keep it clean.

 

Hows that hypocritical? Killzone could sell 3 million copies, but if it didnt turn a profit, it wont be successful. On the other hand, the Conduit could sell 300,000 copies, and turn a big profit, and that would be very successful.

Profit ultimately decided what is considered successful or a failure because if a high hyped, high budget game gets okay sales, it is a failure. But if a low budget, high hyped game gets the same okay sales, it is a success.

That is why games like No More Heroes and Zack and Wiki are successes, because they were lower budget titles.

Again, you don't know Killzone/The Conduit's budget, you don't know the profit margin per game sold, and you sure don't know how many it will sell. Please stop predictions on things you know absolutely nothing about.

Go with sales number, let the marketing department to worry about the profit line, please.

 



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
Kasz216 on 19 July 2008
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
SnakeEyez said:
Bursche said:
kingofwale said:
Bursche said:
Wii: MadWorld
PS3: Killzone 2
360: Halo Wars (not really fail, but will be a disappointment compared to the Halo series)

read my title, I said "PICK one"

 

not "provide your own list".

 

Thank you

 

Well then this is a lame thread.

 

I think Killzone 2 will both fail saleswise (aka not make up how much was spent on it) and will not be the AAA game in the reviews.

 

 

Wanna make a bet about that?

 

Ill make a bet that there will be more profit on the Conduit than on Killzone 2. I dont exactly know how much they would have to sell to recoop costs on Killzone 2, but it has to be quite a pretty penny.

 

 

kinda make what you first said about "not make up how much was spent on it" quite a hypocrisy, no?

 

Seriously people, Don't assume stuff you know nothing about. And please stick to the topic.

THe mod has spoken, keep it clean.

We do know that Killzone 3 has a massive budget though. We know it was at 40-50 million like... months ago.

If you want what will sell the least... that should be in your original post.

As flops are mostly based on expected revenue... from companies.  And bad reviews.  From players.

 



noname2200 on 19 July 2008
Kasz216 said:

I'll go with conduit.

It's going to not have any advertising, while the other two games will likely be advertised nonstop.

It'll make money, but it won't do the crazy numbers some predict.

Ironically it may be the only one of the three that does make money.

Yet it will be considered the biggest flop.

This sounds about right (although I think Too Human has a shot at profitability too, just not a lot of it).

And boy did this thread go downhill fast.

Bailing out!

 



kingofwale on 19 July 2008

>We do know that Killzone 3 has a massive budget though. We know it was at 40-50 million like... months ago.


That's news to me, link please.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
Rock_on_2008 on 19 July 2008

I say of king's games listed Too Human(X360) and The Conduit(Wii) have the highest chances of failing to meet expectations.
KZ2 will significantly improve upon KZ and I expect it will score 85% and above as a review average score.