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deathgod33 said:
85 percent of people buy an xbox 360 for halo 3 and/or gears of war

100% of that post was utter bullsh*t.  Explain to me why the two of them put together have sold just over 50% of the 360's total userbase, and many of those were sold to the same people.

 



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deathgod33 said:
85 percent of people buy an xbox 360 for halo 3 and/or gears of war

 

That's not even a good troll since if you add Halo 3 and Gears together, assuming no overlap that only represents 65% of the population. Don't troll, consider yourself warned.



There is/was nothing wrong with the XBox 360's hardware, features or services that was preventing Microsoft from breaking out into the mainstream audience; but the fact is that Microsoft doesn't understand these gamers and has shown little interest in developing an understanding of them.

I don't really understand it myself, but there is something about what Nintendo has produced with the Wii that people who are not gamers (and people you would consider the gaming mainstream) see the system as being "Fun" ...



Someone tell me whats so great about Vista? I dont know and that is Microsoft in one answer. They cant do online because they can't appeal to customers. Apple fucked em and now Sony and Ninty are doin the same.

One example, their latest multi touch screen you see on CNN etc, what is that, how will they market it, who actually thinks it will become an innovative affordable desktop must buy in every home. To me Apple are making noise while MS is cashing cheques. Actually that sounds familiar.

And personally i hate, HATE the animosity generated by MS staff, Wii's for kids, etc etc.



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Microsoft has a big problem outside of the USA: they are hated. It's really hard to get to new markets when you are hated for what you currently do. If would have been Apple would have done the Xbox. People all over the world would have bought it (even in Japan).



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i think the best way for MS to attract casual gamers is through the media, if they put out ads for casual games on the 360 and stuff.



Not really. Al least not to the extent Nintendo's doing with the Wii. True casuals don't give a flying fart about the Xbox360. Maybe painful to hear for fanboys, but the truth. It may not seem like a dificult machine to us, but it IS to those casuals. Everything about it, from the controller to Xbox Live to the games to the entire strategy, and small afterthought-additions and changes like those Avatars and a new dashboard are not gonna change it at all. Of course there are always gonna be new people attracted to the console, but not nearly much enough to even begin to compare it to a fraction of Wii's audience.



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megaman79 said:
Someone tell me whats so great about Vista? I dont know and that is Microsoft in one answer. They cant do online because they can't appeal to customers. Apple fucked em and now Sony and Ninty are doin the same.

One example, their latest multi touch screen you see on CNN etc, what is that, how will they market it, who actually thinks it will become an innovative affordable desktop must buy in every home. To me Apple are making noise while MS is cashing cheques. Actually that sounds familiar.

And personally i hate, HATE the animosity generated by MS staff, Wii's for kids, etc etc.

 

Vista is supposedly more user friendly. Other than that I hate it.

 

My laptop came with a vista only graphics card so I can't even dual boot XP.



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E3: Wii, PS3 forecast clear; Xbox 360 cloudy

by Marcus Lai

 

The big three video game hardware manufacturers this week battled it out to claim victory among press and analysts at the E3 Media & Business Summit in Los Angeles, CA.

Nintendo Co. focused solely on profit-generating casual game experiences for its top-selling Wii, which claimed the leadership position in U.S. sales this week at 10.9 million units sold to date.

Wii Music is likely to be a huge holiday hit with more than 60 virtual instruments in a non-graded playing environment. Music titles are more popular than ever, and a version that caters to all will be well-received by the Wii demographic.

Animal Crossing: City Folk will merge core and casual players into a semi-social networking title that utilizes a new $29.99 WiiSpeak microphone peripheral. The success of previous titles will likely generate positive buzz for the next installment.

Wii Sports Resort will capitalize on the introductory Wii Sports and tie-in the new Wii MotionPlus Wii Remote add-on. Having the peripheral bundled is crucial to install base acceptance, but it’s a crap shoot as to whether audiences will find the device a necessity or a nuisance.

With Nintendo raking in sales on casual products, the core audience was left without a franchise sequel - a notion that will likely have little effect on Nintendo's money-making bottom line. Though a myriad of accessories have a chance of diluting value in current peripherals.

Sony Corp. this week defined the Playstation 3 as an all-in-one entertainment machine, providing new franchise game titles and a full video download service.

Top titles like Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, and Killzone 2 looked like prime assets in the PS3 library.

The oft-delayed Home social networking service will debut this fall, providing an integrated online experience for core and casual gamers alike.

A show floor demo looked functionally capable of delivering social mini-games and themed spaces to the virtual online world. A dose of heavy marketing for Home could nab interest from a more casual gaming audience. More importantly, it's free.

The most crucial development for the PS3 was the availability of a new Playstation Store video download service. After years of talking about an all-in-one set top box, the PS3 can finally deliver standard and high-definition movie and TV downloads to the masses.

A smart, synergistic property is the ability to seamlessly transfer any downloads to the PSP, a functionality that the company didn't relay with its failed proprietary UMD movie format.

Microsoft Corp. desperately wants the Xbox 360 to be something for everyone, though, the strategy will be hard to execute.

Core titles remain the hardware's strength, as Gears of War 2 looked blazing hot, along with the creative Fable 2.

The defect of Final Fantasy XIII to the 360 was the mother of all coups to the core audience, though an uncertainty of a Japan release for the title potentially hammers yet another nail into the coffin of the 360 in Japan.

The new Xbox Live interface looks chic and more inviting than the blades system.

Avatars are a definite Mii-too addition to the 360 that is necessary in the market place to make each player's online space more personal.

The new Primetime division has the potential to be a big casual hit, with game shows like 1 vs. 100 and real prizes.

However the biggest obstacle to mass market entry is the Xbox Live subscription. Core players squeeze every last penny out of Xbox Live service, but casual players are unlikely to shell out additional money to play Primetime titles, limiting the experience to existing members.

Products released last year like Scene It? and Viva Pinata: Party Animals failed to connect mass market users to the hardware.

Lips, a casual karaoke singing title, is also likely not to break new ground in the crowd of more established titles like Sony's Singstar and Harmonix Inc.'s Rock Band.

Without a healthy strategy to compete against Wii, the 360 will have to once again focus fire on the PS3, which is slowly but surely gaining ground in the home entertainment hub space.

==> Completely agree.



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I don't really give a rats ass about casuals. As long as M$ keeps putting loads of awesome ass games onto the 360 I will be fine. I am gonna spend around $600 on games for the 360 from August to December.