| johnsobas said: anyone else think that many of the people are just using it as a blu-ray player? |
That would surprise me.

| johnsobas said: anyone else think that many of the people are just using it as a blu-ray player? |
That would surprise me.

konnichiwa said:
Yes, games developpers who work long into a game and spending a lot of money into a game make almost no profit, but games developpers who make easy small games make a lot profit :( big money developpers are dieying thanks to nintendo :(. |
they'll likely die REGARDLESS of nintendo. nintendo is just accelerating their downfall.
there is a silver lining: there will be fewer big budget titles, but those that do arrive on the market should be gems.
the Wii is an epidemic.
konnichiwa said:
So does the N64 , GC lovers in the last two next generations. |
you are right but always there are fanboys, n64 fanboys, gc fanboys, ps fanboys, ps2 fanboys, wii fanboys, ps3 fanboys, etc, if a system sells good the fanboy acts like he invented the system jajaja, and if a system sells poor the fanboy acts like nothing happens.

Chubear said:
Wrong dude. But hey, continue to believe what you must, either way I don't benefit from your ignorance so whatever dude. |
Chubear... U'r so convinced of yourself... That's gotta come from somewhere, a source maybe?!
Or your just another ignorant Sony fan who still doesn't want to admit PS3 is failing in Japan (And in the rest of the world). U guys always seem to find another excuse for when Sony/PS3 is failing... It's So funny... Believe what you want but your the one who's being ignorant. So funny... here follows a flashback:
Januari...: Some guy named HUS claimed PS3 would crush sales of Wii..... Didn't happen.
Then they thought hey wtf?!... Another month maybe...
Then came Kwaad and Hus: March...! Owyeah
.... Gundam Mosou coming out and EU launch... (U know what happened after that launch...?! Sales plumbed down...) And Ps3 didn't crush Wii... IT DIDNT EVEN COME CLOSE!
(Then HUS got banned)
Blue3: June will be the month in which the PS3 triumphs!!! Blablabla... With Ninja gaiden Sigma and Folksoul... 2 killer-aps he said...
... U Sony fans call everything killer-aps these days right?! Even when it sells around 100k lifetime?!
And now... What's next guys... U say it... August?! September?! December?! U guys dream on... And life the dream boys! Cause it's u guys that are being ignorant... And yes Chubear... U'r in the same list (Hus, Blue3, some other Sonyfans...) iff u ask me...

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| johnsobas said: anyone else think that many of the people are just using it as a blu-ray player? |
Don't be silly. They are using it to cook steaks and stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Hh3tBdHwM
Lingyis said:
they'll likely die REGARDLESS of nintendo. nintendo is just accelerating their downfall. there is a silver lining: there will be fewer big budget titles, but those that do arrive on the market should be gems. |
That is so sad.

@ Rolstoppable: True indeed...!
And more then 70% of the games Nintendo makes are 'BIG BUDGET' AAA(+?!) Franchises like Mario, Zelda, DonkeyKong, Metroid, Super smash bros, Mario kart series, Mario party, Paper mario, Starfox, Kid Icarus, Etc...
And i do have a feeling u'r making a profit when almost every game u make sells more than a million copies!!!... So it comes down to this: If u make good games u sell... And when a 'BIG BUDGET' game is GOOD... Most of the time it sells good...! (Some games didn't, unfortunately, like Beyond good and evil... But BUY IT! It's worth it!!!)

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RolStoppable said:
Nintendo is making both kinds of games and they make big profits on both kinds. But well, let's go on to the interesting part, the one I bolded. If big budget games are dying that's the fault of their respective publishers, if they are stupid enough to spend so much money on consoles (360, PS3) that don't have the necessary userbases to support these kind of games. Or just blame consumers for being not willing to spend more than $300 on a console, not Nintendo. Big budget games can only survive if they are made for a console with a high userbase. To get a high userbase you need to expand on the existing markets and attract new consumers with a wide variety of software, the PS2 didn't become big because it only had big budget games. So, in fact, Nintendo is doing quite the opposite of what you are implying, their strategy for market expansion helps 3rd parties to keep developing big budget games in the future. The Wii is helping the market as a whole much more than you want to believe. |

| StarcraftManiac said: @ Rolstoppable: True indeed...!
And more then 70% of the games Nintendo makes are 'BIG BUDGET' AAA(+?!) Franchises like Mario, Zelda, DonkeyKong, Metroid, Super smash bros, Mario kart series, Mario party, Paper mario, Starfox, Kid Icarus, Etc... And i do have a feeling u'r making a profit when almost every game u make sells more than a million copies!!!... So it comes down to this: If u make good games u sell... And when a 'BIG BUDGET' game is GOOD... Most of the time it sells good...! (Some games didn't, unfortunately, like Beyond good and evil,Okami... But BUY IT! It's worth it!!!) |
Sorry but that game had to be there to.
Mario party, paper mario are not big budget, The most of the Mario games are not big budget, they
just make a game with Mario and it sells, Mario soccer! Mario Tennis! Mario hotel, DR Mario....
Or like Pokemon games they always update them a little and that is all and they sell this is really depressive
for game developpers;

konnichiwa said:
Yes, games developpers who work long into a game and spending a lot of money into a game make almost no profit, but games developpers who make easy small games make a lot profit :( big money developpers are dieying thanks to nintendo :(. |
Cry me a river you bleeding heart fanboy.
1. Nintendo couldn't have killed anything if it wasn't what the consumer already wanted dead.
2. Nintendo actually didn't kill anything, in fact, its actually keeping that legacy of developing you speak of very much alive on its console, not that you would recognize it as all you want to see is the cheap ports and mini-games. I doubt you'd even be able to recognize that style of game development if it didn't cost upwards of 30 million dollars to develop and nearly four years to produce.
3. It's not Nintendo's fault that Sony and MS raised the bar of game development too high and out of reach of the consumer. It's not Nintendo's fault that Sony and MS let the market stagnate while focusing ever more specifically on narrowing genres instead of expanding their product's appeal. You've no one to blame but Sony and MS.
Nintendo is not the culprit, its the Harbinger of Reality. If you don't like it, play on a PC. You've no right to complain.