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Galaki on 22 June 2007

why people think ps3 is on par with PC in raw power is beyond me. Console will never catch up to PC. You can buy a powerful PC that costs easily over 5K and still not top of the line and you expect a PS3 which cost under 1K to be equal on power...



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superchunk on 22 June 2007

oh but it has bluray....



your mother on 22 June 2007

...completely forgot about that - PCs are doomed to utter inferiority against Blu-ray's infinitely awesome power...



Bodhesatva on 22 June 2007

And if you have a 5k computer, someone else can buy a 10k computer. If you buy a 10k computer, some crazy billionare can buy a business-quality server, and so forth.

Until we have a computer/console that can run a Grand Theft Auto type game where every meandering person looks something like this:

http://www.theasiatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/max_edwin_rendered_face_song_hye_kyo.jpg

And it can render these people at 100+ FPS with dozens if not hundreds of them on the screen simultaneously, then there is room for more growth.

Let's just agree that the Playstation 3 is very powerful -- graphically speaking -- for its time, and leave it at that.  



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ItsaMii on 22 June 2007
kber81 said:

Best product? Few days ago I was able to meet this awesome machine. Yes, I'm biased etc. but I was thrilled because this all stuff looks even worse than I thought... On lcd tv it looks horrible. Wii sports is a joke. I haven't seen such crap since PSX. It's an insult for gamers. Yes, I do know about simply look idea but... shit... this isn't a cute apeal... it looks messy. Actually, now I agree it's pandemia... why people buy it? I'm telling you only asset of this machine is price. People buy it because they want to believe it's a next gen. No it's not. It's a joke.

Horror... ok, now I'm ok. I didn't spam this forum with my feelings earlier but... this thread is too much.


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your mother on 22 June 2007
Bodhesatva said:

And if you have a 5k computer, someone else can buy a 10k computer. If you buy a 10k computer, some crazy billionare can buy a business-quality server, and so forth.

Until we have a computer/console that can run a Grand Theft Auto type game where every meandering person looks something like this:

http://www.theasiatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/max_edwin_rendered_face_song_hye_kyo.jpg

And it can render these people at 100+ FPS with dozens if not hundreds of them on the screen simultaneously, then there is room for more growth.

Let's just agree that the Playstation 3 is very powerful -- graphically speaking -- for its time, and leave it at that.


And if you have a 5k computer, someone else can buy a 10k computer. If you buy a 10k computer, some crazy billionare can buy a business-quality server, and so forth.

Then you get to rendering farms, but yeah...

Until we have a computer/console that can run a Grand Theft Auto type game where every meandering person looks something like this:

http://www.theasiatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/max_edwin_rendered_face_song_hye_kyo.jpg

That is an impressive render, but even then (for me) the eyes are a dead giveaway. There's just no soul in them eyes... 

And it can render these people at 100+ FPS with dozens if not hundreds of them on the screen simultaneously, then there is room for more growth.

Not just hundreds of them - thousands of them! RTS, anyone?

Let's just agree that the Playstation 3 is very powerful -- graphically speaking -- for its time, and leave it at that.

I think everyone can agree on that. 



MikeB on 22 June 2007

I think Crysis already has graphics surpassing R:FoM

Who's talking about Resistance? Insomniac has heavily modified their PS2 engine for the PS3, but Resistance was one of the earliest launch titles and the engine for Ratchet and Clank future will be further enhanced.

vegetation is exceptionally hard to get right but it looks spectacular in Crysis, and on top of that you can actually "mow" down trees with your weapon of choice. Achieving this requires complex calculations and demands the best from your hardware.

So? Killzone will have fully destructable environments, meaning you can realistically blow up trees, run your tanks through walls, etc. All realtime physics, yes heavy calculations handled by the cell processor.

R:FoM cannot handle 1080p; what makes you think that a game which is more hardware-demanding in virtually all aspects, especially in graphics and physics will be able to run at 1080p on the PS3?

Wait until you see Rachtet and Clank.



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MikeB on 22 June 2007

Yeah, Vista will be eating 1.25gigs of those 1.5 required, 2.0 recommended - right.


To run Vista itself well enough at 1920 × 1200 requires about 1 GB of system RAM and 128 MB of video RAM.

InformationWeek:

"I'd concur with the recommendation of 1 GB, which is what I had on my test PC running Vista. Judging by the decent (but by no means stellar performance) I saw, I'd say 2 GB is an even better bet."

IMO to futureproof your Vista box, buying up to 2-3 GB RAM may not be a bad idea.



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akuma587 on 22 June 2007

Wow, that article makes me want to vomit. I am not denying the Wii is a good console, but this guy acts like the thing is Jesus Christ. Not all of the Wii praise is merited. There are A LOT of just plain bad Wii games out there if you guys hadn't noticed, including some of the first party ones like Mario Party and Big Brain Academy (a glorified and expensive DS game).



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akuma587 on 22 June 2007

Correct me if I am wrong...but I do not think grossing over $320 million in the U.S. alone is considered a box office failure. I really don't understand his Spider-Man 3 comparison at all, especially because the movie has done phenomenally outside the U.S. as well. This guy's bias is so bad that it hurts.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson