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DMeisterJ said:
So legend, can you ask the mods to lock your thread now? I know it's coming.

Actually, Legend is mature enough to take criticism, either true or dreamed up by sony fans and can man up and not pout, whine, scream, beg, borrow and steal and demand mods close a thread he created.

My heavens - that's like dumping your cargo at the sight of an Imperial patrol. Huh ... wait a minute.

OT: Excellent points, Legend. It's amazing how hard Sony fans are spinning the loss of exclusivity for FF113 to the 360. Admit it's a loss for Sony - admit that the PS3 may not be as awesome as believed - admit that developers are more interested in making $$$$, not tapping the power of tha cell.

 



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badgenome said:
ChronotriggerJM said:
I like that the "sony fanboy's" completely break apart the original post with fact's, and it's all of a sudden damage control -_-; Dmeister owned this poor thread...

Please. Dmeister doesn't even own the console of which he's a fanboy, let alone this thread.

+1 for the madman from Tehran.

 



kirby007 said:
Legend11 said:

I've noticed that Sony tends to show far more games that are being released at least a year or more away while Microsoft and Nintendo tend to be far more conservative and show games releasing this year (with very few exceptions). 

While it is very interesting to see the kinds of games we'll be seeing in a year (or couple of years) it also should be met with a lot of skepticism especially considering Sony's past.  For example we've all seen videos of what the PS1, PS2, and PS3 were supposedly capable of before the consoles were actually released and they failed to achieve what was promised.  We've also seen some games announced by Sony at E3 that were either later cancelled or simply did not live up to their hype.  In these ways it seems that Sony is by far the most guilty of using smoke and mirrors in their presentations to put uncertainty in the minds of console purchasers, especially those considering consoles based on what games are out for them now or in the near term.

Anyways I just wanted to make that point for all the people raving about Sony's E3 press conference.  I'm very sure that Microsoft and Nintendo could have easily showed games very early in development but for reasons we don't know of they didn't.  Some may complain about that but remember, at least it helps to keep them honest and reduces the chances of you getting your hopes up only to later have them dashed.

 

AMEN

lol @ damage control from the sonyfans

 

...Since when did you become a blinded Nintendo fanboy?


DJmeister showed us already that  Legend was wrong and you still agree with it?

Damned....I knew the N-fans were bitter but so bitter??? If Nintendo had shown a teaser of a new Zelda game we would have tens of threads about it and every N-fan would be in joy like E3 2004 and don't care if they had to wait for years like they did with Twilight. But they didn't showed anything so you just should troll because the others got something?

Bro do me a favour get some fresh air, get a gf or give your life some meaning and finally find a job where you can work your anger/frustration away you are looking very pathetic this way.

Thx;






DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
LOL MATURE said:
DMeisterJ said:
Yeah. Resistance 2. Years away! So is Little Big Planet! So is SOCOM: Confrontation! So far away!

/thread

Try again legend.

 

And Valkyrie Chronicles and Ratchet and Clank Quest for Booty... and so many others


If you could show like a 2 second clip accidently on PSP "showing". Either way a lot of games i thought were coming in 08 are coming in 09.

I really perfer the new nintendo model of "Showing games that should release during the year only."

Like Wii Sports: Resort?

 

Isn't that coming out in Spring? Aka before next E3? Therefore any announcement at next E3 would just be about how well or poorly it sold.

A may release for GOW seems really optimistic. I mean all they have is a CGI trailer that was like... 30 seconds. I'd guess like September/October 2009.

God of War III will be out in March of 2009.

Believe:

God of War March 05

God of War 2 March 07


I guess i could... if i ignored the fact it takes a lot longer to make PS3 games then PS2 games.

Hey this thread remidns me... what was he trying to say when he said "Sony has the most exclusives with consoles with 75 or more titles."  Metacritic rankings or something?



Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:

God of War III will be out in March of 2009.

Believe:

God of War March 05

God of War 2 March 07

I guess i could... if i ignored the fact it takes a lot longer to make PS3 games then PS2 games.

Hey this thread remidns me... what was he trying to say when he said "Sony has the most exclusives with consoles with 75 or more titles."  Metacritic rankings or something?

I suppose so.



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Yeah, maybe God of War 3 will come out in March of 2009 and Sony has just been hiding it because they don't want to create hype with games that are 9 months away when they're used to creating hype with games that are 2 or 3 years away.

Yeah, it will come out in March 09 for sure.

The problem with Sony isn't that they fail to properly predict release dates, it's that they outright mislead their base on release dates.  And somehow their base falls for it again and again and again.



You guys do know that GoW3 developers are already on different projects... don't you... oh please tell me you guys knew this. Why would developers go on different projects if the game they started needed more help to be finished...



Hawkeye said:
DMeisterJ said:
So: Sony shows Resistance 2, MotorStorm 2, SOCOM: Confrontation, LittleBigPlanet, Buzz, Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty, PixelJunk: Eden, Flower which are all due in 2008.

Microsoft shows Star Ocean 4, Final Fantasy XIII, Resident Evil 5, all due in 09. Along with Fable 2, Gears 2, and Fallout 3 due in 08.

Fail?

 

 The problem is perception. Both Microsoft and Sony showed games that are argubly boring/crappy. For example, I thought that flower and Buzz and alot of other PS3 games looked bad, while you listed them. On the other hand, Infintie Undiscovery, BK, Viva Pinata and Last Remnant looked good, yet you failed to list those as Microsft games. I think we both agree that your at the movies and Lips looked bad :)

For non arcade fall 2008 games though, I think Microsoft won hands down. PS3 had SOCOM, Resistance 2, LBP, and some others like NCAA fottball 2009 that I cannot remember. PSP had Patapon 2, LocoRoco 2, Star Ocean First departure, Resistance, and some 2009 stuff. 360 had BK, Viva, Fable 2, Gears 2, Infinite Undiscovery, Last Remenant, Fallout 3.

PS3 has also Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm and believe it or not, it will be a hit.

 



LOL MATURE said:
You guys do know that GoW3 developers are already on different projects... don't you... oh please tell me you guys knew this. Why would developers go on different projects if the game they started needed more help to be finished...

Sony Santa Monica has been and still is hard at work on God of War 3. They're not working on anything else.

 

And as for the Getaway and 8 Days. Those games were in development, but got derailed by a number of factors. A) Home is taking up precious resources. B) Killzone is taking up precious resources. Ultimately, the biggest reason they got cancelled was because of C) Phil Harrison, Worldwide Head of Sony Game Development, left the company and his replacement didn't like the way the two games were shaping up. That's not empty promises. That's called changing circumstances.

Games get cancelled and delayed all the time. Ever heard of Splinter Cell: Conviction or Alan Wake? How about Zelda Twilight Princess or Metroid Prime 3? Oh noes! MS and Nintendon't keep promises! Where's my mommy!

The fact of the matter is that Sony is releasing two very solid well previewed games this Fall: Resistance2 and LBP. Early next year they have two more games with great potential: Killzone 2 and InFamous. How is this bad again?



My Top 5:

Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear Solid 3, Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Chrono Trigger

My 2 nex-gen systems: PS3 and Wii

Prediction Aug '08: We see the PSP2 released fall '09. Graphically, it's basically the same as the current system. UMD drive ditched and replaced by 4-8gb on board flash memory. Other upgrades: 2nd analog nub, touchscreen, blutooth, motion sensor. Design: Flip-style or slider. Size: Think Iphone. Cost: $199. Will be profitable on day 1.

Zelda Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime three released though....so I don't understand their inclusion.



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