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And a company in Australia JBHiFi is going non-exclusive by offering HD DVDs and HD DVD players.

Do any of these matter? No, because the war's gonna drag on for years to come.



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Yeah, but Australia is about 90% Blu-ray as far as sales. There is no way that HD-DVD can stage any kind of comeback down there.



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BTW there is pretty cool sale on Amazon. You can buy one blu ray movie and get another for free. Selection is obviously limited but still. I live in Europe so I'm very pleased with fact this promotion include multiregion movies(yes - Blu Ray also has movies without region limitation). I've picked up Apocalypto (in Europe it's HD-DVD only so far) and Pirates as a freebie. Go and get one too


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moot? In 2007 alone, high-def has undergone considerable growth from less than 1% of media bought to about 5% as you have said. With the current price cuts going on, that is going to grow even more. In fact, I would say that the current purchasers of consumers will be getting out of the "early adopter" stage soon when this goes up to 15%, which isn't that far away. If this topic is moot to you, then why post in this thread at all? It sounds like you would want to post about the DS or something.



The gloves are off. Backers of the high-definition Blu-ray Disc format are staging a two-day offensive in Hollywood this week, touting their triumphs and offering previews of upcoming releases such as Cars, Ratatouille,, the “Die Hard” movies, Dirty Dancing and Spider-Man 3 to a crowd of more than 50 influential print and online journalists.

The event, which concludes Tuesday, could be seen as a guns-blazing pre-emptive strike against the rival HD DVD camp, which almost simultaneously got a boost from Wal-Mart and other retailers, which reportedly began selling HD DVD players for just less than $200. That is expected to give the HD DVD format a significant boost, particularly in the wake of Paramount Home Entertainment’s defection several weeks ago from the Blu-ray side.

The so-called “Blu-ray Festival” coincides with the launch of a new branding and consumer education campaign, with the tagline “I Do Blu,” that premiered Oct. 28 during the final game of the World Series.

Both the campaign and the festival, the latter orchestrated by Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment, underscore growing sentiments, backed by research, that consumers are largely indifferent to high-definition discs and turned off even more by the presence of two incompatible formats.

To combat this, Blu-ray backers are stepping up the rhetoric and courting the press, particularly the new vanguard of online Web sites, bloggers and discussion boards that cater to the early adopters who historically have set trends the masses have followed.

“It’s a great idea,” said Ron Epstein, a founder of the Home Theater Forum, which is celebrating its 10th anniversary. “The early adopters are all on the Internet — that’s where they find their information. And there’s a certain brand new, just happened element.”

“These are the people who are regularly covering technological advances in home entertainment,” said Steve Feldstein, SVP of marketing and corporate communications for 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment. “They are at the forefront of the format, as are their readers.”

Representatives of all the Blu-ray-exclusive studios — Lionsgate, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment and Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment — were in attendance at the Monday morning opening breakfast, as were key executives with supporting consumer electronics manufacturers such as Sony, Philips and Panasonic.

Also there was Dan Silverberg, VP of high-definition media for Warner Home Video, which since Paramount’s move to the HD DVD camp is the only studio to support both next-generation formats.

That may not be for long, Silverberg said. “One thing that may be changing is our strategy,” he said. “When both formats launched and hardware prices were high, we made a decision to support both formats and let the consumer decide. But now that hardware pricing is affordable for both Blu-ray and HD DVD, it appears consumers no longer want to decide — so the notion of staying in two formats for the duration is something we are re-evaluating now that we are in the fourth quarter.”

Silverberg noted that Warner has the top-selling Blu-ray title of all time with 300 and is consistently No. 1 or No. 2 in both Blu-ray sales market share and in number of Blu-ray titles in the market.

“We can definitely talk Blu-ray,” he said. “We are committed to the format.”

At the Monday morning kickoff, the featured speaker was David Berman, director of Home Theater Specialists of America (HTSA), a buying consortium of 62 dealers and 800 installers with combined revenue of more than half a billion dollars a year. He said the HTSA supports Blu-ray because a member survey found 92% favoring Blu-ray over HD DVD.

The press was given a fact sheet of more statistics and Blu-ray milestones, including the fact that even in a week in which Transformers came out on HD DVD and with no comparable title in its lineup, Blu-ray Discs still managed to outsell discs in the rival format. So far this year, Blu-ray titles have outsold HD DVD titles by a 2-to-1 margin. Since inception, Blu-ray software sales have accounted for 61% of high-def disc software sales. And 17 of the 20 top-selling high-definition disc titles are available on Blu-ray.

There also were indications that the Blu-ray camp is done playing nice. At the entrance to the opening breakfast, at the Hollywood and Highland complex, was a huge blowup of a Deadline Hollywood article by renegade online columnist Nikki Finke. The article raised questions about Paramount Home Entertainment’s claim that it sold 190,000 copies of Transformers on HD DVD in a single week.

Later in the day, on the 20th Century Fox lot, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment president Mike Dunn blasted Paramount for its defection, accusing the studio of “taking the bait,” referring to a reported $50 million payout to drop its support of Blu-ray Disc and release titles exclusively in HD DVD.

Dunn also intimated that the format war is being perpetuated by Microsoft in the hopes of confusing consumers so much they don’t support either format and ultimately buy their entertainment online. He didn’t name the computer giant by name, but blasted “the orchestrated campaigns of confusion and anti-consumerism fueled by an 800-pound gorilla that would prefer to force us all into the practice of paying tolls for the right to exchange information and enjoy entertainment.”

Fox also previewed several Blu-ray Disc titles still in development, including I, Robot, Independence Day and Sunshine, which will be released early next year and boast picture-in-picture, audio mixing and other groundbreaking interactive features.



So, Warner, one of the big studios that uses both formats is hinting that they might want to make a switch to blu ray. This is going to be BIG news if it does happen, just as big as the Paramount switch was a few months ago. Here is the link to the original article:
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?article_id=11449



oh, btw, both formats are now selling at about 5% of DVDs on a movie per movie basis. If the console wars shows anything, the upcoming price cuts by both formats could push that to 10% pretty soon.



Bd player manufacturing prices are about to go down.
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Hitachi reportedly to produce BD pick-up heads in joint venture in China
CBN Daily, November 2; Adam Hwang, DIGITIMES [Monday 5 November 2007]


Hitachi, a member of the Blu-ray Disc (BD) Association, will invest 100 million yuan (US$13.4 million) to produce BD pick-up heads (PUHs) on a joint venture basis with Huizhou Foryou Group, which is based in southern China, with monthly output to reach 200,000 units by the end of 2007 and 0.5-1 million units in 2008, according to the Chinese-language CBN Daily newspaper in China.

Huizhou Foryou started technological cooperation with Hitachi in 1993 to make DVD PUHs, the CBN Daily indicated. Hitachi's investment in making BD PUHs is regarded as a breakthrough in the BD supply chain in China, mainly due to the minimization of production costs of BD devices as well as the expected large growth in global demand arising from the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games, the CBN Daily pointed out.

http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20071105PB201.html


btw, let me know if that link doesn't work



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