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Nobody asked you squid



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Bodhesatva said:
Good lord. All I can say is that Toshiba and Sony must be bleeding money from the ears in an attempt to win this war. 8 free discs? Yikes.
Well, pocket change actually for Sony, probably more serious for Toshiba, though. For Sony, it means $1.10 per disc (cost of production, they own most of the movie rights themselves). For Toshiba, well, they have to get some deals from the studios to give away the discs for nothing. Also, most of those free movies have already been selling to the people owning players, so the loss in revenue is not that severe.

 



vizunary said:
sieanr said:
lvader said:
Killzone3 said:
http://techdigest.tv/2007/08/ifa_2007_livebl.html Bluray discs are outselling HD-DVD 3:1 in Western Europe at the moment, since the launch of the PS3.

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-63996.aspx Blu-ray Disc sales across Europe have reached 250,000

Most European HD DVD owners buy their movies in the US, because they are cheaper and WE can.


 One of the things I love about HDDVD is that its region free.


 

so is blu-ray

No its not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

dallas said:
Nobody asked you squid

 Thats because you are spamming this thread with news stories from Bluray.com

Maybe you could just use the edit button



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

Warner:"more titles for BD in Q4 than in Q1, Q2, and Q3 combined!

They make some good movies.



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sieanr said:
dallas said:
Nobody asked you squid

 Thats because you are spamming this thread with news stories from Bluray.com

Maybe you could just use the edit button


The whole point of this thread is to track the whole format battle.  And it is not as if I was posting old news anyway, in fact all this as announced yesterday because of a the IFA show.  Cheers. 



The increasingly dirty technology war being fought for dominance of “next generation” DVDs took another twist today when one of China’s largest film distribution groups said it would back Blu-ray, the technology developed by Sony and Philips.

China Film Group’s decision comes as the Blu-ray Disc Association – a consortium of more than 170 content and hardware producers – is reeling from the defection of Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation two weeks ago.

China Film Group, in addition to producing movies such as Kung Fu Hustle and a range of popular film and TV series for its domestic market, plays a central role in the distribution of foreign films in China, acting as a de-facto regulator.

Analysts said that China Film Group's move was evidence that the struggle between Blu-ray discs and the rival format, HD-DVD, would be heavily influenced by the choices of content providers and consumers in Asia. HV-DVD is produced by Toshiba and backed by the likes of Microsoft and Hewlett-Packard.

Blu-ray received another fillip yesterday when Acer, one of the world’s big three personal computer brands, said that it too would be adopting Sony’s format. Acer, previously an associate member of the HD-DVD Promotion Group, will build Blu-ray disc players into its laptop and desktop PCs.

Many believe that, while the decisions of the major studios will be important in deciding the outcome of the high-definition format war, it may be the PC market that has the final say.

Paramount and DreamWorks previously released films on both Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs. Both studios have said that they will now produce content exclusively on HD-DVD, pointing to cost advantages with the Toshiba format.

Their decision, which surprised analysts and drew heavy criticism from senior Hollywood insiders, came as Blu-ray appeared to be gaining the upper hand over the Toshiba format in disc sales. Toshiba has denied offering Paramount and DreamWorks any financial inducements to encourage their defection from Blu-ray.

Sony’s PlayStation 3 games console, which has sold more than 4 million units worldwide, includes a Blu-ray disc player and is thought to account for the early lead of the Blu-ray format over its rival.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article2362436.ece



So if I understand this correctly, Blu-ray just got china. =)



"China Film Group, in addition to producing movies such as Kung Fu Hustle and a range of popular film and TV series for its domestic market, plays a central role in the distribution of foreign films in China, acting as a de-facto regulator. "



leo-j said:
Again the nintendo fanboys attack sony and anything playstation by going with hd dvd on this thread.

 OMFG! Fanboys bashing a productdue to bias? SHOCKING!

 Seriously, that's a dumb comment. OF COURSE fanboys will put anything related to the competition down. Yet you can't honestly say the inverse isn't true. A lot of blu-ray support is due to Sony bias* rather than actual merits of the product.

 Oh, and why didn't you also put Xbox fanboys in your comment? They bash blu-ray as well, due to Sony's involvement, and that Microsoft supports the other guys.

 *Plus I'm sick of the line that Sony didn't make blu-ray, in order to hide that they side with blu-ray solely due to Sony. Even if the general idea was a committee decision by the blu-ray association, the actual development, and likely the patents, is Sony's.

 

 I still maintain that this format was will likely end in a truce.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

HD DVD Player: SRP $199

Announced today as the cheapest entry-level HD DVD player Venturer's SHD7000 HD DVD player gets a price.

We just talked with a representative from the company who said the suggested retail price will be $199.

Normal sellers of Venturer products include Wall-mart, so a price around $150 in stores should not be impossible. We will see.

Does this mean HD-DVD is better than blu-ray? No (especially since a lot of experimental conent on both formats* will likely become standard down the line). 

Does this mean HD-DVD is guaranteed to win? No. I'm not pretending to know the future.

Does this mean this format war is far from decided at the moment? Yes, and it should be this way. A lot of you still ignore how far behind DVD was at this time.

 

*This content is really cool because it works with SDTVs as well. Plus you can't use DVD for it, since they don't have that kind of coding.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs