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Quartz on 17 February 2008

22 pages later... all done and dusted?



Good to see this site is still going 

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LordTheNightKnight on 17 February 2008

Talk about missing the point. This thread was not started as a genuine support for blu-ray. It was started to bash HD-DVD. I was not arguing HD-DVD would win. I was arguing that it was bullshit to bash HD-DVD. Just because HD-DVD is going away does not make your bullshit magically true.

And all bashing is bullshit, so that applies anywhere.



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Final-Fan on 17 February 2008

I would like to point out that "banned for trolling" =/= "everything he posted was trolling".



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akuma587 on 17 February 2008

HD-DVD has to truly die before we can lay this thread to rest. That would entail one of the following:

1. Toshiba calls it quits.

2. Universal and Paramount go Blu-Ray and/or neutral.

3. Retailers completely drop HD-DVD.

I predict 1 will happen first, then 2, then 3.



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NYANKS on 17 February 2008

Lordthenightknight won't be satisfied until Toshiba gives official word, so let's just wait till then.



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LordTheNightKnight on 17 February 2008
NYANKS said:
Lordthenightknight won't be satisfied until Toshiba gives official word, so let's just wait till then.

Actually I won't be satisfied until these people realize HD-DVD losing does not mean blu-ray wins. Of course they think DVD is going to go away "just because", so I don't think they are going to admit this anyway. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

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LordTheNightKnight on 17 February 2008
Final-Fan said:
I would like to point out that "banned for trolling" =/= "everything he posted was trolling".

I didn't stated everything he posted was trolling. I don't think. Yet this thread certainly was. Just the text isn't there anymore.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

NYANKS on 17 February 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
NYANKS said:
Lordthenightknight won't be satisfied until Toshiba gives official word, so let's just wait till then.

Actually I won't be satisfied until these people realize HD-DVD losing does not mean blu-ray wins. Of course they think DVD is going to go away "just because", so I don't think they are going to admit this anyway. 


I would like you to acknowledge the fact that this was SOME manner of victory for bluray, though.  This was like the primary election.  Now Bluray is going against DVD in the main presidential election, so to speak.  You can't get there unless you win the primary first, correct?  This doesn't mean DVD will weaken or that new problems have not arisen, but this was a victory on SOME level any way you slice it.



LordTheNightKnight on 17 February 2008
NYANKS said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
NYANKS said:
Lordthenightknight won't be satisfied until Toshiba gives official word, so let's just wait till then.

Actually I won't be satisfied until these people realize HD-DVD losing does not mean blu-ray wins. Of course they think DVD is going to go away "just because", so I don't think they are going to admit this anyway.


I would like you to acknowledge the fact that this was SOME manner of victory for bluray, though. This was like the primary election. Now Bluray is going against DVD in the main presidential election, so to speak. You can't get there unless you win the primary first, correct? This doesn't mean DVD will weaken or that new problems have not arisen, but this was a victory on SOME level any way you slice it.


Actuall, this was more HD-DVD's loss. They didn't make the right deals, blu-ray did. And this is not an only one format situation. That's another fallacy. It was possible dual players could have been the norm. Just because that didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't possible. HD-DVD could have stuck around and blu-ray could still have hit mainstream. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

NYANKS on 17 February 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
NYANKS said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
NYANKS said:
Lordthenightknight won't be satisfied until Toshiba gives official word, so let's just wait till then.

Actually I won't be satisfied until these people realize HD-DVD losing does not mean blu-ray wins. Of course they think DVD is going to go away "just because", so I don't think they are going to admit this anyway.


I would like you to acknowledge the fact that this was SOME manner of victory for bluray, though. This was like the primary election. Now Bluray is going against DVD in the main presidential election, so to speak. You can't get there unless you win the primary first, correct? This doesn't mean DVD will weaken or that new problems have not arisen, but this was a victory on SOME level any way you slice it.


Actuall, this was more HD-DVD's loss. They didn't make the right deals, blu-ray did. And this is not an only one format situation. That's another fallacy. It was possible dual players could have been the norm. Just because that didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't possible. HD-DVD could have stuck around and blu-ray could still have hit mainstream. 


Yes, but that did not happen.  And how could it be more of HD DVD's loss, when "they didn't make the right deals, blu-ray did."  It seems blu-ray accomplished something that HD DVD could not.  That seems to be a victory.  It takes two to tango.  I won't get into the business specifics of hybrid players being the norm instead of a single victor, because I honestly don't know them.  But this was a blu-ray victory.