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Forums - Sony Discussion - the Blu-ray thread, will go on untill hddvds death.

Auron on 05 February 2008
stephen700 said:
I noticed Amazon have some HD-DVD on special (clearance sale ?) but in spite of the sale prices it's not doing very well. Blu-ray which is not on sale is holding a comfortable lead in every domain. ! ;
When Blu-ray was on sale a few weeks back it totall flew it actually came to the level of the old DVD format on amazon 4 of top 5 disk'swere blu-ray!. Blu-ray sales were matching(or possibly exceeding) DVD sales when they had a discount on amazon !.
HD-DVD is so far far down the rank perhaps the only way to revive it would be for toshiba to give away millions of free players and disks to attempt to resucitate it.

Blu-ray has the edge in capacity and streaming data rate AND QUALITY
HD-DVD maxes out it's peak data rate I checked with planet earth the peaks are clipping the data and compromise the image quality even with the best codecs ! VC-1 needs blu-ray's higher data rate to avoid image distortion ! (both HD-DVD and blu-ray use VC-1 on planet earth). In a 5.1 or 7.1 channel sourround sound movie the peak action sequences will easily exceed the 36Mbps streaming rate of HD-DVD so every action sequence on HD-DVD effectively has compromised image quality!.
VC-1 is good but it's needs a higher data rate than HD-DVD specification provides !. While both formats use VC-1 Blu-ray 's 48mbps provides superior image quality when those high action -detail sequences occur.
To fit 7.1 channel sound HD-DVD has a peak image data rate of only 28Mbps compared to the 40Mbps of blu-ray !. BLU-ray has superior image quality to HD-DVD (assuming both formats are fully optimised as one should expect).

 This thread should end soon. HD-DVD is almost dead and they are just bleeding money. SB commercial cost them millions and won't help.



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thinkb4uspeak on 05 February 2008

From what I have heard, it sounds like the Super Bowl ad was a complete disaster for Toshiba. I have heard that it was the same commercial that they have been showing for months now so it was even new and fresh. Also, apparently the commercial was shown during the early part of halftime when a lot of people usually run to the bathroom, kitchen or do something else for the next 30 minutes while the halftime show is on. To make matters worse, many on the web are stating that the commercial was not shown in all the markets in the U.S. I know I am in the midwest of the U.S. and did not see it. I'm not sure if I missed it because it was shown during halftime or if it just was not shown in my area. Either way, it seems the majority of people were like me and didn't even see it.



FinalEvangelion on 11 February 2008

Add Netflix to the cause...

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Dallinor on 11 February 2008

Netflix is the largest online rental service. That's a big move.



 

PooperScooper on 11 February 2008

I did not see any HD-DVD commercial and I was looking for it. I did not leave me seat while my mom was gone to a movie with my little sister (first quarter she missed) and I told her to look for an HD-DVD comercial while I was gone. She did'nt see any.



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PooperScooper on 11 February 2008


PooperScooper on 11 February 2008

^ wow how awful. BR should have had a commercial with this commercial playing in the background with a bunch of people just pointing and laughing.



steverhcp02 on 11 February 2008

tick tock, tick tock......all logical people viewing things objectively from the beginning knew it was inevitable. CE support, Studio support, Retail support. Period. from the beginning, all have favored BD, it was only a matter of time, like ive been saying all along. The most important mass adoption long term variables favored BD since both were introduced into the market, it was inevitable.

Interactive features, low ball pricing cant create demand and only appears "cheap".....Toshiba royally fucked up, but im just beating a dead horse since ive been saying this for the last 6 months.




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BMaker11 on 11 February 2008

I think this thread can finally be laid to rest. It went through the long haul and won out. It's time to retire and relish in what's been accomplished lol



makingmusic476 on 11 February 2008
steverhcp02 said:
tick tock, tick tock......all logical people viewing things objectively from the beginning knew it was inevitable. CE support, Studio support, Retail support. Period. from the beginning, all have favored BD, it was only a matter of time, like ive been saying all along. The most important mass adoption long term variables favored BD since both were introduced into the market, it was inevitable.



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