exindguy said:
noname2200 said:
RolStoppable said:
The problem this generation is that the hardcore gamers feel to be drastically outnumbered. In previous generations a lot of gamers were sharing their love for a particular console, although it wasn't for exactly the same reasons. Then along comes the Wii and suddenly a shift occurs which is apparently hard to understand for a lot of hardcore gamers.
They try to explain it with "most Wii owners are new to gaming" and hope that 100m PS2/Xbox owners are still sitting there only waiting for the PS3/360 to come down in price before they upgrade. But in reality, the core gamers are migrating to the Wii because they see great value and potential for new gaming experiences on Nintendo's system.
Even that is hard to understand for most hardcore gamers though. From their point of view new gaming experiences mean better graphics, better AI and more realism. They are really bitter about the Wii's success because it goes against their world view.
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I agree with most of this, but I think the root of the matter is that the snobcore are smart enough to realize what's happening: daddy's got a new kid, so the they're no longer gaming's only little princess.
That sound harsher than I intended, but I think it holds true nonetheless. They've said it outright themselves several times: they have a problem with casual gaming because they fear more and more developers will start making games that appeal to people beyond their narrow niche. The fact that the current arms race is unsustainable, and that it's driving the same developers they count on out of business doesn't mean squat to them. Your last paragraph in particular nailed that.
So no, I actually think that the snobcore understand what's going on perfectly fine. And that's why they're afraid.
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This is a very good post, primarily for the bolded sentence as well as the term "snobcore" which I've never encountered before (your invention, or...?)
The fact is, these guys aren't hardcore, at least not in the way that I or anyone that played games before the advent of the PS One really understood the term. They like a very narrow group of IPs, genres, or templates and anything that falls outside of them is viewed with effete disdain. Gaming isn't a hobby to these guys--it's who they are. And when I read screeds like this all I get from it is that it's also a quasi-religious faith; that they are the priests that decide what is holy and what is heretical.
And, to them, nothing is more heretical than 'casual' games or the people that play them. Therefore, for the good of the flock, they must be cast into hellfire to safeguard the purity of the faith. The bitter irony (for them, if they could see how foolish they sound), of course, is that the casual gamers have no idea fools like this exist and would probably be pretty amazed to read such vitriol coming down from the pulpit of the angry arch-nerd, venting his impotent fury at a blindly-supportive audience.
But what makes me most upset about idiotic screeds like this is simply that they find the time to get worked up about franchises and genres that are in no danger at all of not seeing yet another sequel, spin-off, or remake. There will always be another Metal Gear or Final Fantasy or Gears of War (or some other title that fits that template) coming down the line and in large numbers. These games, like the dread scourge mini-game compilation, make money so there will always be more. How you could sit down and type something like this up, with the snobcore gamer as the central victim in some epic pity play, when literally all of the evidence flies in the face of your table-banging, red-faced screeching beggars the abyssal depths of logic and imagination.
Lastly, let me just throw my two cents in on what I think, classicly, a hardcore gamer is:
You're open to playing games regardless of:
*Graphical or aural presentation.
*Apparent age suitability.
*Lack or thinness of storyline.
*Difficulty level.
*Platform the game is on, be it portable, console, or PC (and drilling down to, say, Wii, 360 or PS3).
*Territory in which it originated.
There's more, but I think that's a reasonable start to what it actually means to be "hardcore" (at least in my eyes) and why a snobcore gamer can't possibly be hardcore, at least in regards to the screed featured in the OP.
Note: I also want to stress that what a lot of these people consider "awesome" in games would be laughed out of the building in literature, movies, etc.
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