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fazz on 08 July 2008
greenmedic88 said:
There was a $500 budget gamer build on Tom's Hardware (April 2008), but in was by no means a PC that plays Crysis on High settings.

It also didn't include networking capabilities, any input devices (mouse/keyboard), or an OS. The video card was only a 384MB 8800GS, but for about the same price today, you could pick up a 9600GT.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphic-game,1810.html

Realistically speaking, $700 would be a more comfortable budget that would actually provide a complete working PC without cannibalizing components or an OS from an older one.

Knocking a $100 of the build due to "re-using" a copy of an OS is not a legal solution assuming you're planning on running more than one PC on the same license, which many do anyway.

I thought all modern motherboards had LAN already, hmmm...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129018

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147095

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822210003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102752

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170017

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823157010

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161229

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128077

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116052

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056

All of the above for a total of $500.90. Do I win something?



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Garcian Smith on 08 July 2008
greenmedic88 said:
There was a $500 budget gamer build on Tom's Hardware (April 2008), but in was by no means a PC that plays Crysis on High settings.

It also didn't include networking capabilities, any input devices (mouse/keyboard), or an OS. The video card was only a 384MB 8800GS, but for about the same price today, you could pick up a 9600GT.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphic-game,1810.html

Realistically speaking, $700 would be a more comfortable budget that would actually provide a complete working PC without cannibalizing components or an OS from an older one.

Knocking a $100 of the build due to "re-using" a copy of an OS is not a legal solution assuming you're planning on running more than one PC on the same license, which many do anyway.

 

"Budget" is right. Integrated audio and only 2GB RAM? That's skimping quite a bit.

Realistically, you'd need a better processor (the Pentium E2160 is meh), more RAM, a dedicated sound card, and probably something better than the 8800GS. That, combined with the cost of a new copy of Vista, a decent wireless kb/mouse, ethernet card, and - since we're assuming that this is Baby's First Gaming PC - a good monitor, you're looking at a LOT of money. I'd say closer to $1000.



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 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

Garcian Smith on 08 July 2008
fazz said:
greenmedic88 said:
There was a $500 budget gamer build on Tom's Hardware (April 2008), but in was by no means a PC that plays Crysis on High settings.

It also didn't include networking capabilities, any input devices (mouse/keyboard), or an OS. The video card was only a 384MB 8800GS, but for about the same price today, you could pick up a 9600GT.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphic-game,1810.html

Realistically speaking, $700 would be a more comfortable budget that would actually provide a complete working PC without cannibalizing components or an OS from an older one.

Knocking a $100 of the build due to "re-using" a copy of an OS is not a legal solution assuming you're planning on running more than one PC on the same license, which many do anyway.

I thought all modern motherboards had LAN already, hmmm...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129018

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147095

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822210003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102752

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170017

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823157010

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161229

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128077

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116052

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056

All of the above for a total of $500.90. Do I win something?

 

You could maybe squeak by at 30 fps on that system if you turn every Crysis setting to Low. Maybe. The processor isn't even up to the minimum specs for the game.

And - again - no Ethernet, no sound card, low RAM, and all of those cheap parts probably won't last long.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

kingofwale on 08 July 2008
fazz said:
greenmedic88 said:
There was a $500 budget gamer build on Tom's Hardware (April 2008), but in was by no means a PC that plays Crysis on High settings.

It also didn't include networking capabilities, any input devices (mouse/keyboard), or an OS. The video card was only a 384MB 8800GS, but for about the same price today, you could pick up a 9600GT.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphic-game,1810.html

Realistically speaking, $700 would be a more comfortable budget that would actually provide a complete working PC without cannibalizing components or an OS from an older one.

Knocking a $100 of the build due to "re-using" a copy of an OS is not a legal solution assuming you're planning on running more than one PC on the same license, which many do anyway.

I thought all modern motherboards had LAN already, hmmm...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129018

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147095

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822210003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102752

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170017

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823157010

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161229

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128077

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116052

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056

All of the above for a total of $500.90. Do I win something?

 

how much will it cost to put them together? I don't remember console company shipping you all the component and make you put them together, no?

and shipping?

 

wow... 80GB of harddrive. you sir sure are generous



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Garcian Smith on 08 July 2008

A quick calculation puts those parts at about $75 shipping.

Also, yeah, didn't notice the 80gb HDD. Crysis and XP alone will take up a third of that. Add one more thing to the list...



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

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fazz on 08 July 2008

@Garcian Smith: The Allendale is a nice processor, not a puny one. And a Radeon 3870 struggling on LOW? Wow, just wow...

"and all of those cheap parts probably won't last long." <--- oh, the irony...

And your 360 has WiFi? And would you add the wireless headset, the keyboard addon, etc. to the final price of a 360 even when they are optional?

@kingofwale: $40USD shipping to my location... and to build it you just look it up on google. Lack of knowledge is not our problem, specially since you came on here whining.

@Both: I don't see you complaining on the HDD size on your consoles. What Xbox 360 model you have Garcian? I could've put a 160GB one for like 10 bucks more if I wanted.

Why you PC haters have to always whine about these things, specially since nobody asked? Damn...



Garcian Smith on 08 July 2008
fazz said:

@Garcian Smith: The Allendale is a nice processor, not a puny one. And a Radeon 3870 struggling on LOW? Wow, just wow...

"and all of those cheap parts probably won't last long." <--- oh, the irony...

And your 360 has WiFi? And would you add the wireless headset, the keyboard addon, etc. to the final price of a 360 even when they are optional?

@kingofwale: $40USD shipping to my location... and to build it you just look it up on google. Lack of knowledge is not our problem, specially since you came on here whining.

@Both: I don't see you complaining on the HDD size on your consoles. What Xbox 360 model you have Garcian? I could've put a 160GB one for like 10 bucks more if I wanted.

Why you PC haters have to always whine about these things, specially since nobody asked? Damn...

 

Crysis requires at least a 2.2 GHz dual core. The one you selected is 2.0. And what's so ironic, exactly?

Also, comparing a PC's specs to a 360's is apples to oranges. I only have a 20gb HD on mine, and after using it for six months, I've barely used any of that space. Hell, after a year and a half I haven't even filled the 512mb on my Wii. However, XP plus a half-dozen game installs will fill up that 80gb right quick.

Also also, I'm not a "PC hater." I'm just tired of this "oh you can build a PC that runs Crysis for $400!!" crap, when it's clearly not true.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

PS360ForTheWin on 08 July 2008

aces, crysis is great, warhead should be good as for PC prices, i dont care i already have a pc that runs it on high!



fazz on 08 July 2008
Garcian Smith said:
fazz said:

@Garcian Smith: The Allendale is a nice processor, not a puny one. And a Radeon 3870 struggling on LOW? Wow, just wow...

"and all of those cheap parts probably won't last long." <--- oh, the irony...

And your 360 has WiFi? And would you add the wireless headset, the keyboard addon, etc. to the final price of a 360 even when they are optional?

@kingofwale: $40USD shipping to my location... and to build it you just look it up on google. Lack of knowledge is not our problem, specially since you came on here whining.

@Both: I don't see you complaining on the HDD size on your consoles. What Xbox 360 model you have Garcian? I could've put a 160GB one for like 10 bucks more if I wanted.

Why you PC haters have to always whine about these things, specially since nobody asked? Damn...

1.- Crysis requires at least a 2.2 GHz dual core. The one you selected is 2.0. 2.- And what's so ironic, exactly?

3.- Also, comparing a PC's specs to a 360's is apples to oranges. I only have a 20gb HD on mine, and after using it for six months, I've barely used any of that space. Hell, after a year and a half I haven't even filled the 512mb on my Wii. However, XP plus a half-dozen game installs will fill up that 80gb right quick

4.- Also, I'm not a "PC hater." I'm just tired of this "oh you can build a PC that runs Crysis for $400!!" crap, when it's clearly not true.

1.- You think that Crysis will tell you "fu*k no" if you try to install it on a 2.0 Ghz processor? Hint: No, it won't. And it will run fine. And again, lack of knowledge is not our problem, the Allendale it's an easily overclockable processor... but probably I shouldn't have said that, because one of you two will whine about that too.

2.-

3.- I told you, I could've put in a 160GB HDD for like 10 bucks more, but I wanted to be as close to the $500 mark as possible. I was surprised you guys didn't complain about the 99 cents...

4.- And I'm tired of the "you need a thousands dollar PC!" crap too, when it's clearly not true.

Fair enough?



kingofwale on 08 July 2008
fazz said:

@Garcian Smith: The Allendale is a nice processor, not a puny one. And a Radeon 3870 struggling on LOW? Wow, just wow...

"and all of those cheap parts probably won't last long." <--- oh, the irony...

And your 360 has WiFi? And would you add the wireless headset, the keyboard addon, etc. to the final price of a 360 even when they are optional?

@kingofwale: $40USD shipping to my location... and to build it you just look it up on google. Lack of knowledge is not our problem, specially since you came on here whining.

@Both: I don't see you complaining on the HDD size on your consoles. What Xbox 360 model you have Garcian? I could've put a 160GB one for like 10 bucks more if I wanted.

Why you PC haters have to always whine about these things, specially since nobody asked? Damn...

 

I love how you throw raw components at us to justify the 'saving'... why don't you also just buy us a bunch of resistor and you might be able to cut the price down to 300?

 

What I want to see is a built machine for under 500, if i can't have that, what is stopping people from chosing a console instead???



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)