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Avalach21 on 08 July 2008
The Ghost of RubangB said:
  because all the arguments against homosexuality come from old religious laws.

 

I think that was a very silly thing to say.

I think there are a lot of arguements one could put against the morality of homosexuality that do not involve religious laws.

 

 

seriously i'm not trying to de-rail this thread at all.



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ssj12 on 08 July 2008
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Well I'd be able to contribute a lot to a non-insulting thread about scientology. I attended L. Ron Hubbard's birthday celebration 2005. I can scan my ticket stubs to prove it.

I don't think Scientologists themselves are stupid for believing what they believe in. But they're being lied to by an organization that copyrights its teachings but doesn't pay taxes. That's a legal paradox. That alone should be a red flag about the organization, not the individuals. I'd love to have a discussion about this.

We've had threads about Christianity go on for pages and pages and pages, about some of the same issues with religious organizations, but not insulting the individuals. In fact, any time some bigot starts a gaybashing thread it turns into a religion-dissecting thread because all the arguments against homosexuality come from old religious laws.

I don't know why the climate change thread got locked. People were going nuts, but not in an insulting way yet.

Link to thread?

Anyways, like i said that I believe that there are ways to say things non-insulting like you said for many different subjects.

 



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dtewi on 08 July 2008

You can blame me for getting the Scientology thread locked.

While I wasn't insulting the members, I think i insulted the religion too much.

(Did you unlock this thread ssj12?)



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Avalach21 on 08 July 2008
ssj12 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Well I'd be able to contribute a lot to a non-insulting thread about scientology. I attended L. Ron Hubbard's birthday celebration 2005. I can scan my ticket stubs to prove it.

I don't think Scientologists themselves are stupid for believing what they believe in. But they're being lied to by an organization that copyrights its teachings but doesn't pay taxes. That's a legal paradox. That alone should be a red flag about the organization, not the individuals. I'd love to have a discussion about this.

We've had threads about Christianity go on for pages and pages and pages, about some of the same issues with religious organizations, but not insulting the individuals. In fact, any time some bigot starts a gaybashing thread it turns into a religion-dissecting thread because all the arguments against homosexuality come from old religious laws.

I don't know why the climate change thread got locked. People were going nuts, but not in an insulting way yet.

Link to thread?

Anyways, like i said that I believe that there are ways to say things non-insulting like you said for many different subjects.

 

alright so what's the issue?  let's just say things in a non-insulting manner, and we can all have a grand old time.

 

Can we see some evidence, maybe a link? of any incident where you or anyone else was prevented from stating what they wish in a non-insulting manner?

 



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ssj12 on 08 July 2008
Avalach21 said:
ssj12 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Well I'd be able to contribute a lot to a non-insulting thread about scientology. I attended L. Ron Hubbard's birthday celebration 2005. I can scan my ticket stubs to prove it.

I don't think Scientologists themselves are stupid for believing what they believe in. But they're being lied to by an organization that copyrights its teachings but doesn't pay taxes. That's a legal paradox. That alone should be a red flag about the organization, not the individuals. I'd love to have a discussion about this.

We've had threads about Christianity go on for pages and pages and pages, about some of the same issues with religious organizations, but not insulting the individuals. In fact, any time some bigot starts a gaybashing thread it turns into a religion-dissecting thread because all the arguments against homosexuality come from old religious laws.

I don't know why the climate change thread got locked. People were going nuts, but not in an insulting way yet.

Link to thread?

Anyways, like i said that I believe that there are ways to say things non-insulting like you said for many different subjects.

 

alright so what's the issue?  let's just say things in a non-insulting manner, and we can all have a grand old time.

 

Can we see some evidence, maybe a link? of any incident where you or anyone else was prevented from stating what they wish in a non-insulting manner?

 

A discuss between me and Naz about 10 minutes ago. Got no records of chat. This topic is just to see other peo-ple's point of view and like I said to get user input.

User input = good thing for forums, always.

 



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ssj12 on 08 July 2008
dtewi said:
You can blame me for getting the Scientology thread locked.

While I wasn't insulting the members, I think i insulted the religion too much.

(Did you unlock this thread ssj12?)

 

I locked and then unlocked it. I kind of thought against it for a second then realized this thread could be very interesting.



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Avalach21 on 08 July 2008

ooo u talkin to naz on steam, why don't you add me to friends?



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ssj12 on 08 July 2008
Dogs Rule said:
While on this topic, why was the "Climate change!" thread locked? There was arguments, but nothing harsh.

Persevere in what you want to say SSJ. If it is worth saying, it is worth losing your modship over, which is the worst that could happen.

 

oh i'll stick my PR job out on a lot of what I want to accomplish and get working correctly on this site.



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dtewi on 08 July 2008
Avalach21 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
  because all the arguments against homosexuality come from old religious laws.

 

I think that was a very silly thing to say.

I think there are a lot of arguements one could put against the morality of homosexuality that do not involve religious laws.

 

 

seriously i'm not trying to de-rail this thread at all.

 

Looks like you are.

Take your homophobic nature into a different thread that discusses homosexuality.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

ssj12 on 08 July 2008
dtewi said:
Avalach21 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
  because all the arguments against homosexuality come from old religious laws.

 

I think that was a very silly thing to say.

I think there are a lot of arguements one could put against the morality of homosexuality that do not involve religious laws.

 

 

seriously i'm not trying to de-rail this thread at all.

 

Looks like you are.

Take your homophobic nature into a different thread that discusses homosexuality.

 

lol that was a bit in the wrong there Dtewi. You really need to grow up a bit honestly. I'll tag that one on to Naz's warning.



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