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Riachu on 06 July 2008
Fishie said:
shio said:
Riachu said:
shio said:
brute said:

looking at mgs4 it is now down to 92.5,i remember it was over 94,then some sites went and rated it lower,does this happen to all the games and why?

If you checked, the 2 most reputable reviewers actually gave the lowest scores on MGS4: Eurogamer and EDGE.

 

Also, Imo less popular sites/mags are more honest since they aren't as pressured or moneyhatted by publishers.

 

There is no concrete proof that reviewers are pressured to give a game a high score. Ever heard of Advent Rising and Killzone? Both of those games received a lot of hype yet you did see them getting high review score.

 

I never played Advent Rising and barely heard of it, so I don't know. But Killzone was nowhere near a good game, and it still got an average of 73%.

My 4 most reputable reviewers gave to Killzone:

Gamespy: 6/10

EDGE: 6/10

gamesTM: 6/10

Eurogamer: 5/10

Well below the average.

 

But yes, there's no concrete proof of publisher pressure.

 

Yes there is, I gave a few specific examples in this very thread.

 

Both Advent Rising and Killzone had a lot of hype yet there was no pressure to give them high scores

 



 

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HappySqurriel on 06 July 2008
Riachu said:
Fishie said:
shio said:
Riachu said:
shio said:
brute said:

looking at mgs4 it is now down to 92.5,i remember it was over 94,then some sites went and rated it lower,does this happen to all the games and why?

If you checked, the 2 most reputable reviewers actually gave the lowest scores on MGS4: Eurogamer and EDGE.

 

Also, Imo less popular sites/mags are more honest since they aren't as pressured or moneyhatted by publishers.

 

There is no concrete proof that reviewers are pressured to give a game a high score. Ever heard of Advent Rising and Killzone? Both of those games received a lot of hype yet you did see them getting high review score.

 

I never played Advent Rising and barely heard of it, so I don't know. But Killzone was nowhere near a good game, and it still got an average of 73%.

My 4 most reputable reviewers gave to Killzone:

Gamespy: 6/10

EDGE: 6/10

gamesTM: 6/10

Eurogamer: 5/10

Well below the average.

 

But yes, there's no concrete proof of publisher pressure.

 

Yes there is, I gave a few specific examples in this very thread.

 

Both Advent Rising and Killzone had a lot of hype yet there was no pressure to give them high scores

 

Well, first off how do you know there was no pressure? There are (approximatly) the same number of reviews for Killzone that are below 60% that are above 90%; putting pressure on some of the main sites may have prevented them from giving it a score below 60% ...

Beyond that, the other question is (as a publisher) where would you put pressure on reviewers; would you pressure them to give a below average game an average score, or would you pressure them to give a good game a great score?

 



bouzane on 06 July 2008

Sites like Netjak, Gamers365 and Christ Centered Game Reviews drop some really bizarre review scores which is why I find it difficult to trust meta-review scores at all. Personally, I just check fairly trustworthy sites like IGN, 1UP, etc...



brute on 06 July 2008

^thats what im saying those sites give weird reviews and GR and MC shouldnt count them in their average



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flames_of on 06 July 2008

Some of the weirder ones I suppose shouldn't be counted...

But I stand by my stance that not all reviews that are by the little guys are pointless. Most of them should still be counted for, they shouldn't be discounted as they give reviews you don't like.



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DTG on 06 July 2008
Fishie said:
leo-j said:

94 on metacritic with more reviews http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/metalgearsolid4gunsofthepatriots

Also, Its obvious they are biased, after eurogamers " EVERYONE NEEDS A 360 BECAUSE WITHOUT IT HARDCORE GAMING IS DEAD" statement it made that a fact.

edit:

I seriously dont know wtf reviewers are trying to say:

80

Wired
The team at Kojima Productions has at the very least set a new high-water mark for cinematic presentation that I wager any other videogame will be lucky to reach, let alone exceed, for the next few years.
Seriously, how can you give something an 8 after saying that.

So a crappy game with the best cinematics ever should get perfect tens?

 

 

plot > gameplay.



Fishie on 06 July 2008
DTG said:
Fishie said:
leo-j said:

94 on metacritic with more reviews http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/metalgearsolid4gunsofthepatriots

Also, Its obvious they are biased, after eurogamers " EVERYONE NEEDS A 360 BECAUSE WITHOUT IT HARDCORE GAMING IS DEAD" statement it made that a fact.

edit:

I seriously dont know wtf reviewers are trying to say:

80

Wired
The team at Kojima Productions has at the very least set a new high-water mark for cinematic presentation that I wager any other videogame will be lucky to reach, let alone exceed, for the next few years.
Seriously, how can you give something an 8 after saying that.

So a crappy game with the best cinematics ever should get perfect tens?

 

 

plot > gameplay.

 

 So Umberto Eco`s Name of the Rose is a better videogame then all videogames out there?

 



GooseGaws on 06 July 2008
DTG said:
Fishie said:
leo-j said:

94 on metacritic with more reviews http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/metalgearsolid4gunsofthepatriots

Also, Its obvious they are biased, after eurogamers " EVERYONE NEEDS A 360 BECAUSE WITHOUT IT HARDCORE GAMING IS DEAD" statement it made that a fact.

edit:

I seriously dont know wtf reviewers are trying to say:

80

Wired
The team at Kojima Productions has at the very least set a new high-water mark for cinematic presentation that I wager any other videogame will be lucky to reach, let alone exceed, for the next few years.
Seriously, how can you give something an 8 after saying that.

So a crappy game with the best cinematics ever should get perfect tens?

 

 

plot > gameplay.

You do know that video games are games, right?  As in something that you play?  An amusement or pastime?



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Riachu on 06 July 2008
GooseGaws said:
DTG said:
Fishie said:
leo-j said:

94 on metacritic with more reviews http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/metalgearsolid4gunsofthepatriots

Also, Its obvious they are biased, after eurogamers " EVERYONE NEEDS A 360 BECAUSE WITHOUT IT HARDCORE GAMING IS DEAD" statement it made that a fact.

edit:

I seriously dont know wtf reviewers are trying to say:

80

Wired
The team at Kojima Productions has at the very least set a new high-water mark for cinematic presentation that I wager any other videogame will be lucky to reach, let alone exceed, for the next few years.
Seriously, how can you give something an 8 after saying that.

So a crappy game with the best cinematics ever should get perfect tens?

 

 

plot > gameplay.

You do know that video games are games, right? As in something that you play? An amusement or pastime?

He means that in MGS, we spend more time watching cutscenes than playing the game, which I don't mind personally.

 



 

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Gnizmo on 06 July 2008
DTG said:
Fishie said:
leo-j said:

94 on metacritic with more reviews http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/metalgearsolid4gunsofthepatriots

Also, Its obvious they are biased, after eurogamers " EVERYONE NEEDS A 360 BECAUSE WITHOUT IT HARDCORE GAMING IS DEAD" statement it made that a fact.

edit:

I seriously dont know wtf reviewers are trying to say:

80

Wired
The team at Kojima Productions has at the very least set a new high-water mark for cinematic presentation that I wager any other videogame will be lucky to reach, let alone exceed, for the next few years.
Seriously, how can you give something an 8 after saying that.

So a crappy game with the best cinematics ever should get perfect tens?

 

 

plot > gameplay.

 So Citizen Kane is the best video game ever?



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