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Faxanadu on 03 July 2008

Oh my. If Gamespot says so, then it must be the truth.



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weezy on 03 July 2008

Alot of sites seem to take shots at VG or do not even give VG the time of day.


Like I said im on VG side untill mods get ban happy(again) and start banning thier loyal clientele.

My only gripe is some of the mods professionalism. It really drags the site and probably effects user online numbers. I hpoe ioi takes heed and understand the effect of horrible mods.

The numbers and we(the users) are what makes this site. Some the mods try to be the star of the show or something and it drags the site hits guarrenteed.  And obviously ioi realized it allowing one of the more poular members back (ME)



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bernadettedv on 03 July 2008

I think this site looks awesome. But I'm not very educated - exactly how approximate are vgchartz figures? Are they better for old games or new games? Also, I notice that the PC sales figures are often zero - can vgchartz not track PC sales stats and if not why not?
Can't vgchartz just get all the figures from NPD and then just publish them??



Sqrl on 03 July 2008
bernadettedv said:
I think this site looks awesome. But I'm not very educated - exactly how approximate are vgchartz figures? Are they better for old games or new games? Also, I notice that the PC sales figures are often zero - can vgchartz not track PC sales stats and if not why not?
Can't vgchartz just get all the figures from NPD and then just publish them??

Numbers are typically within 5% of other tracking services for a given territory.  Where VGC is better than the other tracking services is that we track worldwide numbers and not just a single region.

The two major Japanese tracking firms are routinely 30% different from each other and they are considered "profressional" where VGC is often bashed for a single month where one console is off by 12-15% in the US from NPD. 

The basic point is that everyone (NPD, VGC, MC, etc..) is estimating and errors can and will happen. But for some reason despite the fact that we cover a significantly larger market with an admittedly smaller sample we are held to a much higher standard than everyone else.  Tell me how that makes any sense?  

 
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Shanobi on 03 July 2008

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6193336.html

As I'd previously stated, I LOVE that every time Gamespot has a chance to run a story about big sales on a Nintendo product, they ALWAYS chime in with their "despite our piss poor review of this game" comments. Today's didn't include the Metacritic, or Gamerankings, so I'm guessing the average reviews are pretty much higher than GS's.

But here's my reply, again: "pencilpusher69

I love that everytime a game on a Nintendo platform has a story about great sales, you guys always chime in with the "despite our crummy review".

Congrats. Maybe you guys will learn soon that your reviewing relevance is HISTORY."

I mean, isn't it great that the articles tone actually seems to be SHOCKED that despite the holy Gamespots 6.0 review of the game, it still sold well!?



 

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Strategyking92 on 04 July 2008

Can I tell you all something?

A while ago I remember that I was seeing gamespot tweak their review scores if they didn't line up with the critics- this was after kane & Lynch. They are trying to rescue credibility, but instead, they have lost more.



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hunter_alien on 04 July 2008

Well Ive trown in my 50 cents in that discussion ... luckily many are bashing GS :P



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Million on 04 July 2008

It kind of disgusts me to see one non-credible site trying to discredit another.

 

edit : You know what I meant :(.




famousringo on 04 July 2008
Sqrl said:
bernadettedv said:
I think this site looks awesome. But I'm not very educated - exactly how approximate are vgchartz figures? Are they better for old games or new games? Also, I notice that the PC sales figures are often zero - can vgchartz not track PC sales stats and if not why not?
Can't vgchartz just get all the figures from NPD and then just publish them??

Numbers are typically within 5% of other tracking services for a given territory.  Where VGC is better than the other tracking services is that we track worldwide numbers and not just a single region.

The two major Japanese tracking firms are routinely 30% different from each other and they are considered "profressional" where VGC is often bashed for a single month where one console is off by 12-15% in the US from NPD. 

The basic point is that everyone (NPD, VGC, MC, etc..) is estimating and errors can and will happen. But for some reason despite the fact that we cover a significantly larger market with an admittedly smaller sample we are held to a much higher standard than everyone else.  Tell me how that makes any sense?  

 

I just wanted to elaborate on this response and answer some of the specific questions asked by bernadettedv. Sqrl is referring to hardware numbers here, software numbers are a lot harder to estimate and tend to be much less accurate, often off by 50%.

VGC figures are definately better for new games. PS2 software isn't very well tracked and data is incomplete for most games released before the start of this generation.

PC software sales are even harder to track than console software. It's carried by a somewhat different set of retailers and some say the number of online transactions for PC software make any attempt to track it futile. VGC is focusing its limited resources on tracking more measurable console sales.

And for your final question, NPD data costs many thousands of dollars to gain access to, and even if VGC as a free site was willing to pay that price, I doubt NPD would permit VGC to publish their data for the whole internet to see. However, VGC does use what little information NPD publicly releases to gauge the accuracy of VGC numbers.

I'm sure one of the mods on this site will correct me if any of my answers are inaccurate.



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TheRealMafoo on 04 July 2008

no big deal, if ioi want's a better "review" from gamespot, he just has to pay for it.