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PS3 V's X360 the console war rages on. Battle is getting intense with X360 making a desperate move with a small price cut. Far too late should of made it immediately after PS3 cut price last year.



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LongLiveTheBeatles said:
Squilliam said:
Rock_on_2008 said:

Price drop is the most desperate measure. The last resort. It means only one thing. "Upcoming X360 exclusive games can not match PS3 exclusive games."

Killzone 2 and RFOM2? Bah! I would take left 4 dead over the whole lineup of PS3 exclusives. Valve is Jesus and Microsoft is god to me.

 

 

You have just lost all credibility in my eyes. Most only dislike one corporation less then the other which can still lead to fanboyism. But you actually respect Microsoft? Have you been brain-washed? If god gave me a bible that broke down constantly I'd hate him!

Don't read the bible in the bath and you'll be fine I swear! Btw, Microsoft employees have given over 2.5 billion dollars to charitable causes. For that reason alone I admire their civil spirit. Im not even counting Bill gates' contributions. You may dislike their practices as a monopoly, thats fine. So do I. But I respect the personal actions of the employees as good citizens of this earth.

 



Tease.

Squilliam said:
LongLiveTheBeatles said:
Squilliam said:
Rock_on_2008 said:

Price drop is the most desperate measure. The last resort. It means only one thing. "Upcoming X360 exclusive games can not match PS3 exclusive games."

Killzone 2 and RFOM2? Bah! I would take left 4 dead over the whole lineup of PS3 exclusives. Valve is Jesus and Microsoft is god to me.

 

 

You have just lost all credibility in my eyes. Most only dislike one corporation less then the other which can still lead to fanboyism. But you actually respect Microsoft? Have you been brain-washed? If god gave me a bible that broke down constantly I'd hate him!

Don't read the bible in the bath and you'll be fine I swear! Btw, Microsoft employees have given over 2.5 billion dollars to charitable causes. For that reason alone I admire their civil spirit. Im not even counting Bill gates' contributions. You may dislike their practices as a monopoly, thats fine. So do I. But I respect the personal actions of the employees as good citizens of this earth.

 

2.5 billion dollars over the years (25) really put a dent in the hundreds of billions earned in pure profit over those years. Bill Gates also doesnt give away a lot of money. Just a smalll percentage of his income, most of the money in his wifes foundation is even from that other billionaire whos name escaped me. What MS gives to charity is nothing compared to what they take for their inferiour operating system. The damage done to the global economy trough MSs monopoly on the OS market is way bigger then one can imagine.

 



PSN name: Gazz1979 (feel free to add me, but please put your Vgchartz name in the message!)

Battlefield 2: Gazz1979

 

blazinhead89 said:
Gazz said:

This news just in: With the 360 being smacked around the head with better sales of the Wii and PS3 (in spite a hefty price drop in Europe of the 360), fanboys focus all their efforts on the north American market where sales of their favorite consoles were an amazingly insignificant 10.000 units higher. Gazz, an all round gamer with pc and all consoles, except the 360 that failed on him twice reports....

All hope of fanboys is now focused on a short boost of sales when the 360 may or may not drop 50 dollars in price. A brilliant marketing plan, lets make the console that suffers from the image of being a cheap malfunctioning piece of hardware, and make that image even cheaper. Will Sony respond because they must get owned? No, because they did not in Europe and neither did Nintendo. The only thing the price drop did for the 360 in my area (I live in the Netherlands, Europe) is persuade people with little money to get the 360 and flash it to play backups.

Btw, great to see Starcraft trying to distort every discussion. I always figure he must be playing those marvelous games of his on his beloved 360, but with the amount of time he spends posting here and the 360 not having a browser we all know he? on his pc way more then on his 360. Logically of course since most 360 "exclusives" are on it, and it doesn't overheat as fast. Online is also free as it should be.


I think Starcraft just got owned lol

Yes because 15 posts a day clearly means I have time for nothing else

I think Squilliam pretty much covered the ineptitude of Gazz's post and those who agreed with it.  Simultaneously in a post that was meant to criticize Microsoft fans for cherry-picking global sales, Gazz felt the need to divert a North America conversation to Europe, amid a poor PS3 sales climate right after the biggest exclusive the console will have in its first 3-4 years.  And I'm the one trying to "distort" the discussion?  Thats some wonderful anecdotal evidence of global 360 sales faltering you've got there Gazz

 



starcraft - Playing Games = FUN, Talking about Games = SERIOUS

Gazz said:
Squilliam said:
LongLiveTheBeatles said:
Squilliam said:
Rock_on_2008 said:

Price drop is the most desperate measure. The last resort. It means only one thing. "Upcoming X360 exclusive games can not match PS3 exclusive games."

Killzone 2 and RFOM2? Bah! I would take left 4 dead over the whole lineup of PS3 exclusives. Valve is Jesus and Microsoft is god to me.

 

 

You have just lost all credibility in my eyes. Most only dislike one corporation less then the other which can still lead to fanboyism. But you actually respect Microsoft? Have you been brain-washed? If god gave me a bible that broke down constantly I'd hate him!

Don't read the bible in the bath and you'll be fine I swear! Btw, Microsoft employees have given over 2.5 billion dollars to charitable causes. For that reason alone I admire their civil spirit. Im not even counting Bill gates' contributions. You may dislike their practices as a monopoly, thats fine. So do I. But I respect the personal actions of the employees as good citizens of this earth.

 

2.5 billion dollars over the years (25) really put a dent in the hundreds of billions earned in pure profit over those years. Bill Gates also doesnt give away a lot of money. Just a smalll percentage of his income, most of the money in his wifes foundation is even from that other billionaire whos name escaped me. What MS gives to charity is nothing compared to what they take for their inferiour operating system. The damage done to the global economy trough MSs monopoly on the OS market is way bigger then one can imagine.

 


"Matching Charitable Donations Charitable donations are matched by Microsoft, up to $12,000 per year. Microsoft also matches the time that you volunteer in the community - donating $17 per hour to eligible organizations. " http://members.microsoft.com/careers/mslife/benefits/plan.mspx Btw, I want to hear about Sonys desire to form a Monopoly in the optical video formats and your take on the damage it will cause the world before I'll take your OS argument seriously.

Tease.

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LongLiveTheBeatles said:
Maybe they shouldn't respond. The American economy is weak so I think a price-cut for any console would be slightly nullified as-well. They are making a slight bit of profit per console now and must slowly dig themselves out of this hole they have dug. If the X-box sells 80,000 a week which is my educated guess, then the PS3 is still selling 50,000. Just because the competition is doing better doesn't mean you are doing worse. Focus on your strategy and reduce the price when you can produce the machine and turn profit selling it at 300$.

They have a strong line-up this year so I'm happy and sales will go up to (I'm guessing) the 60,000 mark when the 80gb is in stock.

Actually console sales generally weather poor economic environments well as they are a relatively cheap continuous form of entertainment.  Where on Earth do you get the idea Sony are making a slight profit per console?  As of Q1 this calendar year they were losing between $80-120 per unit according to their own numbers.

According to the NA sales thread a large number of people have seen significant quantities of the 80GB console in the wild.  Though I agree that one console selling better than another isn't a direct sign the lesser console selling poorly, such low sales after the PS3's biggest exclusive so far (and for at least the next year) are very concerning.

 



starcraft - Playing Games = FUN, Talking about Games = SERIOUS

Squilliam said:
LongLiveTheBeatles said:
Squilliam said:
Rock_on_2008 said:

Price drop is the most desperate measure. The last resort. It means only one thing. "Upcoming X360 exclusive games can not match PS3 exclusive games."

Killzone 2 and RFOM2? Bah! I would take left 4 dead over the whole lineup of PS3 exclusives. Valve is Jesus and Microsoft is god to me.

 

 

You have just lost all credibility in my eyes. Most only dislike one corporation less then the other which can still lead to fanboyism. But you actually respect Microsoft? Have you been brain-washed? If god gave me a bible that broke down constantly I'd hate him!

Don't read the bible in the bath and you'll be fine I swear! Btw, Microsoft employees have given over 2.5 billion dollars to charitable causes. For that reason alone I admire their civil spirit. Im not even counting Bill gates' contributions. You may dislike their practices as a monopoly, thats fine. So do I. But I respect the personal actions of the employees as good citizens of this earth.

 

And that my friend is exactly why I am convinced you are brain washed. Honestly, I'm glad we have a million idiots giving money away to lost causes so they can say they care about the children and all that bullshit but really, if I pissed money I would have no problem doing the same thing.

And if you couldn't tell, I'm not the religious person in the world. You apparently missed the pun but here's how the joke goes. You compare Microsoft to god; I compare god to Microsoft. Microsoft's bible is the 360 and it breaks down constantly which is why I'm hate them. I make a jab at a console and on some rare occasion it had some wit and subtly, but people miss it. I'm starting to doubt humanity. 

jk

 



LongLiveTheBeatles said:
Squilliam said:
LongLiveTheBeatles said:
Squilliam said:
Rock_on_2008 said:

Price drop is the most desperate measure. The last resort. It means only one thing. "Upcoming X360 exclusive games can not match PS3 exclusive games."

Killzone 2 and RFOM2? Bah! I would take left 4 dead over the whole lineup of PS3 exclusives. Valve is Jesus and Microsoft is god to me.

 

 

You have just lost all credibility in my eyes. Most only dislike one corporation less then the other which can still lead to fanboyism. But you actually respect Microsoft? Have you been brain-washed? If god gave me a bible that broke down constantly I'd hate him!

Don't read the bible in the bath and you'll be fine I swear! Btw, Microsoft employees have given over 2.5 billion dollars to charitable causes. For that reason alone I admire their civil spirit. Im not even counting Bill gates' contributions. You may dislike their practices as a monopoly, thats fine. So do I. But I respect the personal actions of the employees as good citizens of this earth.

 

And that my friend is exactly why I am convinced you are brain washed. Honestly, I'm glad we have a million idiots giving money away to lost causes so they can say they care about the children and all that bullshit but really, if I pissed money I would have no problem doing the same thing.

And if you couldn't tell, I'm not the religious person in the world. You apparently missed the pun but here's how the joke goes. You compare Microsoft to god; I compare god to Microsoft. Microsoft's bible is the 360 and it breaks down constantly which is why I'm hate them. I make a jab at a console and on some rare occasion it had some wit and subtly, but people miss it. I'm starting to doubt humanity. 

jk

 

 

 I think my eye for subtlety is blurred. I really need to get some sleep. I still don't think you should read your bible in the bath! So I got some of it, just not all of it.

Lalalala another day another battle against the forces of darkness for the forces of light. (No judgement on the qualities of the consoles, just that one is black and two are white for the most part anyway)



Tease.

we have to wait to see



starcraft said:
LongLiveTheBeatles said:
Maybe they shouldn't respond. The American economy is weak so I think a price-cut for any console would be slightly nullified as-well. They are making a slight bit of profit per console now and must slowly dig themselves out of this hole they have dug. If the X-box sells 80,000 a week which is my educated guess, then the PS3 is still selling 50,000. Just because the competition is doing better doesn't mean you are doing worse. Focus on your strategy and reduce the price when you can produce the machine and turn profit selling it at 300$.

They have a strong line-up this year so I'm happy and sales will go up to (I'm guessing) the 60,000 mark when the 80gb is in stock.

Actually console sales generally weather poor economic environments well as they are a relatively cheap continuous form of entertainment.  Where on Earth do you get the idea Sony are making a slight profit per console?  As of Q1 this calendar year they were losing between $80-120 per unit according to their own numbers.

According to the NA sales thread a large number of people have seen significant quantities of the 80GB console in the wild.  Though I agree that one console selling better than another isn't a direct sign the lesser console selling poorly, such low sales after the PS3's biggest exclusive so far (and for at least the next year) are very concerning.

 

Goddamn can you be smug and annoying. Anyway, take a source: http://gizmodo.com/344141/ps3-production-cost-down-50-sony-finally-breaking-even

I don't have time for your silly debacles for I am currently engaged in a conversation about religion god and charity. I have all the games I'll ever need so frankly I could care less about sales; I'm only here to talk games.