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Fernando said:
I don't have any problems with gay people. I mean, I don't have gay friends and I don't want to make friendship with them. They can live their lives that way if they want...

I had friends... good friends, than after many years, they confessed that they are gay. I try to help them, try to convince them to go to church. But they didn't wanted. So I don't want any more friendship with them.

But that is wrong... I don't want to sound like a bad people, but being gay is wrong. Why? Because is a sin. And is a sin that can be fix if you go to the church. There are a lot of testimonials about gay people that know that is wrong, and God has helped them.

People don't born gay. And people can change.

I'm methodist, by the way.

And this is a very delicated topic, so I don't want me to judge me for this post.


Sorry Fernando but i can't help it.

This is SO wrong. When people who are close to you confess something that they want to get out of them because it's probably eating them up, the worst thing you can do is to abandon them.

Did your friendship depend on whether or not he/she slept with the same sex? Why? Did he/she try to force his/her sexuality on you? Gay=Sin is a subject that if we open we'll never find a right or wrong answer so i won't go there.

Also, i highly doubt that desire for the same sex can be just gone by going to the church. That's just as stupid as the guy that died because refused to take medication in favour of his religious beliefs.

 



 

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JustinUK said:
Million said:
My problem with the gay guy saying he wants the freedom to be gay is that we must be equal in saying that the indivudal such as the Peadophile should also be free to do as he sees right.

 

Please don't bring up the old gay=pedophile connection. Gay adults wanting equal treatment is not the same as people (straight or gay) wanting to rape children. It's an argument I've heard many times before and I was disgusted by it the first time

 

For some reason  I can't post outside the quote so i'll post inside . You can't have one without having the other , the freedom to escape our traditional values must be limitless in order for it to be true "freedom" otherwise you'd be imposing your values on others (something which is frowned upon in our western world) Here in the UK we say you do what you feel is best for you and i'll do what I feel is best for me but ironicaly I can't be fully free to do whats best for me if it limits others.


By saying a peadophile should rape an individual ( however obscene and disgusting the act is ) would be the same as saying homosexuality is good , you can't impose your own morale values upon me and say the two are different because according to our way of life we should be free to define ouselves  , choose what we feel is best and no be dictated to , anythign else would be a limitation of our freedom.


My argument is that freedom in the sense of complete freedom to do what we wish isn't generaly productive and can't really work in practice , I can't be entirely free to do what I want without limiting the freedom of other people therfore restrictions in our freedom such as not being homosexual or not being a peadophile are neccasery for the benefit of us all.




@Million

Yeah but no one has the right to force someone else do something he/she doesn't want to, i mean in rape only the one wants it. In homosexuality no one forces someone else do something he/she doesn't want to.

I can do whatever i want in my bed as long as both i and the other person want it and as long as i don't hurt anyone.



 

The way I see homosexuallity and religion is... its seperate. You can be Christian and be gay. People have done far worst sins, if it even is a sin, than be gay. God forgives all kinds of transgressions, and he will forgive this as well (this is just assuming that Homosexuallity is a sin, I havent studied this enough to know myself)

Even if it is a sin, why should we hold it against people here on this world? Believing in other Gods is a sin, a pretty big one at that, and yet we have freedom of religion. Homosexuality does not harm any person, so why should we limit this and their rights here on this earth?

Before some people come and say all the other sins: Murder hurts others, stealing hurts others, cheating on your spouse, etc hurts others. Its not a coincidence that the commandments that do not harm others, are not illegal. Ex. Honor thy father/mother, Honor Sundays, etc.



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Million said:
My argument is that freedom in the sense of complete freedom to do what we wish isn't generaly productive and can't really work in practice , I can't be entirely free to do what I want without limiting the freedom of other people therfore restrictions in our freedom such as not being homosexual or not being a peadophile are neccasery for the benefit of us all.

Your argument is a specious bit of sophistry. Your argument boils down to "restrictions on homosexuality are neccesary for the benefit of us all". Wow.



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.:Dark Prince:. said:
@Million

Yeah but no one has the right to force someone else do something he/she doesn't want to, i mean in rape only the one wants it. In homosexuality no one forces someone else do something he/she doesn't want to.

I can do whatever i want in my bed as long as both i and the other person want it and as long as i don't hurt anyone.

 

But your already deciding a condition for doing "whatever" you want , that isn't freedom , tha's you imposing your values on other people (i'm not saying that's wrong but it's quite contradictary). What makes you any more correct than the pedophile or the murder who sais " I feel it's ok to assult , rape , kill" , we Studied Sartre and he argued without god there are no aprior ( before experience values ) therfore the thief would be just a justified in his actions as the Docotor or Priest .Because there is no objective, supernatural being to determine beforehand what is good or bad ( according to Sartre ) we subjective beings are all justified in what ever we choose because "unjustified" hasn't been established.

 

People claim they want to depart from traditional views and values for the sake of their freedom or liberty but won't accept the full consequences of doing so.




fkusumot said:
Million said:
My argument is that freedom in the sense of complete freedom to do what we wish isn't generaly productive and can't really work in practice , I can't be entirely free to do what I want without limiting the freedom of other people therfore restrictions in our freedom such as not being homosexual or not being a peadophile are neccasery for the benefit of us all.

Your argument is a specious bit of sophistry. Your argument boils down to "restrictions on homosexuality are neccesary for the benefit of us all". Wow.

Actually their is a precedent on it anwyay so he's wrong there. Though I believe he's british so he doesn't know the old saying.

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins."

Some people being oversensitive jerkwads is never a reason to ban something.

 



i believe homosexuality is a psychological thing that develops, no i dont think u r born gay. And also i consider myslef religious, and i dont like it. And when ur in a society that doesnt approve of it-though its becoming more acceptable- it affects your beliefs. To be honest i can't stand someone being or acting gay in front of me



kopstudent89 said:
i believe homosexuality is a psychological thing that develops, no i dont think u r born gay. And also i consider myslef religious, and i dont like it. And when ur in a society that doesnt approve of it-though its becoming more acceptable- it affects your beliefs. To be honest i can't stand someone being or acting gay in front of me

You could believe that... or you could actually look into it you know.... you can also believe the sun revolves around the earth if you want... but i mean... it still doesn't make it so.

 



kopstudent89 said:
i believe homosexuality is a psychological thing that develops, no i dont think u r born gay. And also i consider myslef religious, and i dont like it. And when ur in a society that doesnt approve of it-though its becoming more acceptable- it affects your beliefs. To be honest i can't stand someone being or acting gay in front of me

 

 What I can't stand is how people in TV feels proud of declaring that they are gay or TV shows that applaud homosexuality like the L Word TV show or dating shows like Next or that kind of shows with homosexual people.