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Shameless said:
NJ5 said:

People will find all kinds of arguments to discount Wii's success... You may have a case with the Wiimote, as that's a very important part of the console, but the other peripherals certainly aren't.

 

In what way is this reason discounting Wii's success? All I have seen are people disagreeing and offering no counterpoint. The games are obviously less of a factor than the controls because the controls are the only thing that's changed between the Gamecube and the Wii.

 

IMO, you're close but not all the way there.   The change in controls allowed Nintendo to have the Wii do things that couldn't be done with the traditional controllers.

There are 2 important things about the controls that have changed.  One - They have been simplified.  Less buttons to have to deal with to play a game.  Two - The controller itself has been made fun.  Having to press one button at various times would have been boring.  But to swing it about, or to stand on it, or to turn a wheel about, that's fun.

The other change is how the console is marketed.  How much marketing effort was there for GC to expand the console's gamer population.  The Wii alpha mom party equivalent?  The Miis?  The non-traditional gaming press coverage (retirement homes?  rehab?)

Will new peripherals be created for the Wii?  You know that the Star Wars light saber will be a popular one.  But new ones "needed" or else the Wii won't sell?  First, there needs to be a lot more games created for the current peripherals before that happens.

 

 



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Shameless said:

Once again, I am going to reiterate that Nintendo is doing nothing new gameswise compared to last generation apart from games that are tied with peripherals. The high sales must therefore be caused by peripherals.

 

But see, this is where you are wrong. The Wiimote -the system's standard controller, and not a peripheral- is what makes all of the new things Nintendo is doing possible. The only game 'tied with a peripheral' is Wii Fit; everything else can be played with nothing but what comes with the system.



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

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What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

steven787 said:
What about a combination of things?

Software... WiiFit, WiiSports, Mario Galaxy, Smash, Zelda, etc.
Hardware is sleek and sexy
Peripherals/Controllers (some actually serve a purpose) and work
Affordable
And cool (to normal people) with great advertising.

It may not be the best at any one thing (except maybe periphs) but it's a combination...

PS2
Software MGS, GTA, Madden (Remember at first PS2 was the only one with online play, because EA was anti-MS), ZoE (big early gen game), Final Fantasy X.
Hardware: Black was cool in 2001, Smaller than Xbox, Not purple, no handle, DVD out of box (when many still didn't have a dvd player).
Peripherals: DDR (PS1&2 First), Karaoke Rev (Again First on Sony), Great standard controller.
Affordable: $299 (more or equal to the competition but not $500 either)
Cool: PS was the coolest gaming machine around by 2000.

I quoted myself to make a point.  Not because my argument here was right, it may or may not be, but because both sides of this argument in this thread are clearly wrong.  No one thing = success.

 

You guys can keep ignoring reason all you want, but success requires looking beyond your preconceived notions and look at things impartially and rationally (even crazy radio hosts look rationally at the requirements of their profession, voice, tone, entertainment, pandering...).  Nintendo looked at itself and the gaming industry from an outside perspective to see the flaws in the previous profit model.  They needed to cut on development cost and focus on marketing to new users through ads, games, hardware, and asthetics.



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