ssj12 said:
ya that is annoying |
Dont worry Im sure, NJ5, FJ-WAREZ,SQUILLIUM, and DISOLITUDE will come in here and say that its still CGI.
leo-j said:
Dont worry Im sure, NJ5, FJ-WAREZ,SQUILLIUM, and DISOLITUDE will come in here and say that its still CGI.
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+1. I rike the joke.
Console Agnostic since 2001.
| DTG said: Beautiful article that is eloquent in describing what makes Kojima one of the best if not THE premier artist, social and political commentator of the past 2 decades. Finally a journalist that handles the issue intelligently and understands the complex genius of the storyline amid a sea of criticism from others who hide their heads under bags when encountering words such as "philosophy" or "commentary" |
WOW, not only does the guy who wrote this get his facts wrong(first classical franchise that made the jump to HD, oh so things like Virtua Fighter, Sonic, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden etcetera do not exist?) he also uses a lot of words to basically say very little of substance and frankly I find your fascination with Kojima and the near demi God status you seem to give him frightening.
Edit: He also gets the info of the first two metal gear games on NES wrong. Kojima was not involved with either of those, he made the MSX version a year prior and the NES version and its sequel were made in house without his involvement and yes it was with the ULTRA label but ULTRA was Konami as well. Back in those days Nintendo limited the amount of games a company could publish per calendar year but secretly they allowed some preffered partners to publish more then the limit they set. Konami was one of those companies who were allowed to start a second label so they could double the amount of games they published so ULTRA games IS/was Konami proper.
MGS4 FMV's may not be ENTIRELY in engine, but I think at least 80-90% of it is. A few of those were definitely cutscenes, such as at the beginning, but Kojima wasn't trying to pass them off as in-game, so its not really an issue.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Very thorough article. It does good justice to the game, and indeed to Kojima. I don't really agree with him about the length of cutscenes, but as he rightly says, it's a game made for the fans. At any rate it's good to hear someone make those complaints and still give the game it's due.
| akuma587 said: MGS4 FMV's may not be ENTIRELY in engine, but I think at least 80-90% of it is. A few of those were definitely cutscenes, such as at the beginning, but Kojima wasn't trying to pass them off as in-game, so its not really an issue. |
No its all in game, just because it looks too amazing to be true doesnt mean its not.
leo-j said:
No its all in game, just because it looks too amazing to be true doesnt mean its not. |
Even the stuff with the crazy ninjas and the Octopus? I don't believe you.
There is a complete FMV of some lady talking to David Hayter...so obviously some of the game is FMV's if it is live action.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Fishie said:
WOW, not only does the guy who wrote this get his facts wrong(first classical franchise that made the jump to HD, oh so things like Virtua Fighter, Sonic, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden etcetera do not exist?) he also uses a lot of words to basically say very little of substance and frankly I find your fascination with Kojima and the near demi God status you seem to give him frightening.
Edit: He also gets the info of the first two metal gear games on NES wrong. Kojima was not involved with either of those, he made the MSX version a year prior and the NES version and its sequel were made in house without his involvement and yes it was with the ULTRA label but ULTRA was Konami as well. Back in those days Nintendo limited the amount of games a company could publish per calendar year but secretly they allowed some preffered partners to publish more then the limit they set. Konami was one of those companies who were allowed to start a second label so they could double the amount of games they published so ULTRA games IS/was Konami proper. |
"If I don't agree, then it must be wrong" logic = phail....that's right, I spelled it with a "ph"
On topic:
Really good read. It realy is getting kind of annoying, though, when people like the above quoted start saying that these journalists are wrong, when said journalists uniformly agree on things like "good execution of the plot" or "cutscenes in-game or FMV?".......but then when the same journalists review Haze or Lair, and there's backlash from Sony fans, all of a sudden the journalists are right.
Huh what?
The few things I stated in my post can be independantly verified.
The guy simply does not know what he is talking about.
FACT Ninja Gaiden is a classic 20 year old franchise that made the jump to a HD console BEFORE MGS4 did so he is wrong there.
FACT Kojima had nothing to do with the two NES Metal Gear games.
FACT ULTA was just another name for Konami.
So tell me BMaker11 where am I wrong?
Gee, i had no idea that Kojima actually recieved death threats. It just goes to show the 'extremism' of some fans.
I especially agree with this articles about the different opinions on the story. Before playing MGS4, i had a decent grasp of the stories of 1,2 and 3 and did find the story to be 'epic'. However, when my brother played it, and seemed as though he found it a chore to watch the cutscenes and follow the story.
Great article, by the way. Glad i took the time to read it.
PSN- williwod
Remember, there are no stupid questions. Just stupid people- Mr Garrison
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